The Road Ahead: Public Transport Evolution and Insurance with Mike Mgodeli

Yeah.

And even if the trains are running reliable, because of the way that our cities are built and structured, they spread out quite a lot, and you still need that last couple of miles where you need something to get you from train station to point B.

Yeah.

100% you're spot on there, Tony.

So I think, as you said, look, it's the people it's inconvenient, the last mile.

And also the cost element.

So I've seen some ...

I'm sure you've, if you're in Jo'burg, you've seen some guys on the back of bikes.

I'd add more to that, but I think, look, it's just the evolution of what's really happening on the market.

Yes.

Yeah.

And I've also seen that car rental has become very expensive.

And if you're in Jo'burg for two or three days and you do small commutes-

Mm-hmm

... it's becoming more viable to not use car rental, but rather use either e-hailing or short distance train, the Gautrain.

100%.

Look, it's also the convenience factor of it, right? So from a traditional car rental, you still have a lock-in on your credit card over a period, which a lot of people are not comfortable with or don't have access to do that.

Yeah.

I think you're based in Cape Town.

Trying to find parking in town in Cape Town is-

Exactly

... insane.

So it's more convenient to literally to use your e-hailing platforms to get from point A to point B.

And, yeah, it's more flexible for you.

Yes.