Aug 11, 2026 · 38 min · 11 segments
What if one of the biggest untapped opportunities in athletic performance isn't another supplement, wearable, or recovery protocol, but temperature? Conner Schenk sits down with Braeden Ostepchuk…
Braeden OstepchukGuest
Conner SchenkHost
And, and I think with the first time we talked a few months ago and whatnot, and it just, it just made me think of, you know, uh, obviously we're talking about the, the product and kind of what you're building, but like growing up, me and my brothers, you know, playing some hot summer game or something, like your mom throws you a wet towel.

She's like, "Yeah, put it over your head." And you like put it over your head and you're like, "It's still hot as hell out here." Like, I don't know if that-

this isn't getting it done, you know? [chuckles] And so to think that, you know, this type of thing was, you know, in the works and, and really the heat, correct me if I'm wrong, but it kind of affects the m- uh, in, in theory, it affects the muscles, right? And it also affects the brain in, in a certain way, I'm assuming.

So locally, there's really a limit to what the body temperature can handle to be optimal.

And one of the ways of looking at it is, you know, the, the conversion of ATP and the generation locally in the muscle is dependent on enzymes, and enzymes are proteins by nature, and that facilitate reactions.

So like if you're gonna create ATP, you need to have pyruvate kinase as an enzyme.

But they have a, a natural temperature curve where once they start to go above about 40 Celsius, then they start to denature and they break down.

So there are, y- you know, these compounds have temperature thresholds where they'll be optimal or not optimal.

So if you get extremely hot locally in the muscle, you can start to have reduced activity of the enzyme, so there can be effects there.

But I, I think with elevated body temperature and core temperature, from my read on the literature, it seems that the primary inhibitor on performance is centrally regulated by the nervous system.

So the, the way the body's nervous system works, and there's the, the what's called the governor theor- or governor model of fatigue.

So like the governor on a car where it's, you know, your car could go faster, but it's like, "No, no, no, no.

When there are deviations that are significant from homeostasis, and this could be core temperature if it's too high or too low, you know, from what would be your baseline core temperature.

And, and I think with the first time we talked a few months ago and whatnot, and it just, it just made me think of, you know, uh, obviously we're talking about the, the product and kind of what you're building, but like growing up, me and my brothers, you know, playing some hot summer game or something, like your mom throws you a wet towel.

She's like, "Yeah, put it over your head." And you like put it over your head and you're like, "It's still hot as hell out here." Like, I don't know if that-

this isn't getting it done, you know? [chuckles] And so to think that, you know, this type of thing was, you know, in the works and, and really the heat, correct me if I'm wrong, but it kind of affects the m- uh, in, in theory, it affects the muscles, right? And it also affects the brain in, in a certain way, I'm assuming.

So locally, there's really a limit to what the body temperature can handle to be optimal.

And one of the ways of looking at it is, you know, the, the conversion of ATP and the generation locally in the muscle is dependent on enzymes, and enzymes are proteins by nature, and that facilitate reactions.

So like if you're gonna create ATP, you need to have pyruvate kinase as an enzyme.

But they have a, a natural temperature curve where once they start to go above about 40 Celsius, then they start to denature and they break down.

So there are, y- you know, these compounds have temperature thresholds where they'll be optimal or not optimal.

So if you get extremely hot locally in the muscle, you can start to have reduced activity of the enzyme, so there can be effects there.

But I, I think with elevated body temperature and core temperature, from my read on the literature, it seems that the primary inhibitor on performance is centrally regulated by the nervous system.

So the, the way the body's nervous system works, and there's the, the what's called the governor theor- or governor model of fatigue.

So like the governor on a car where it's, you know, your car could go faster, but it's like, "No, no, no, no.

When there are deviations that are significant from homeostasis, and this could be core temperature if it's too high or too low, you know, from what would be your baseline core temperature.
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