Jun 19, 2026 · 54 min · 12 segments
Are you really competing…or just participating? In this episode of the Competitive Edge Podcast, Brian Covey sits down with sports psychologist Dr. Haley Perlus (20+ years working with elite athletes…
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Hailey PerlusGuestBrian CoveyHostYou said I could call you Haley, so I'm going to skip the doctor stuff since they know the PhD and all

When I first, you know, found, came across your podcast, obviously, you know, to look to see all of your accomplishments, but then I just love the title of your podcast because I'm not afraid of competition.

And so the fact that we can look for a competitive edge and embrace competition and use it as a good word again, because I think sometimes the word competition gets a bad reputation these days too.
And as I was researching all that you've done too, this is a cool place to start, is the people you've worked with, your client base, I love this because it's diverse.
It's going to represent a large part of our audience, as we were talking about, is it's going to be the people that listen to the show.
And what you've seen is, I know people today, they struggle with that a little bit.
Maybe they competed in high school or earlier in their life, and now they've just gotten to a place where, I call it participation is probably more of the accurate word, but how do people know if they're competing today and what are some of those benefits of competing?
You said I could call you Haley, so I'm going to skip the doctor stuff since they know the PhD and all

When I first, you know, found, came across your podcast, obviously, you know, to look to see all of your accomplishments, but then I just love the title of your podcast because I'm not afraid of competition.

And so the fact that we can look for a competitive edge and embrace competition and use it as a good word again, because I think sometimes the word competition gets a bad reputation these days too.
And as I was researching all that you've done too, this is a cool place to start, is the people you've worked with, your client base, I love this because it's diverse.
It's going to represent a large part of our audience, as we were talking about, is it's going to be the people that listen to the show.
And what you've seen is, I know people today, they struggle with that a little bit.
Maybe they competed in high school or earlier in their life, and now they've just gotten to a place where, I call it participation is probably more of the accurate word, but how do people know if they're competing today and what are some of those benefits of competing?
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