Jul 22, 2026 · 35 min · 11 segments
As business priorities shift, skills shortages intensify and technology changes the nature of work, organisations need a clearer view of the skills and capabilities they have — and how to deploy them…
Laurelle HectorGuest
Nigel CassidyHost
Andrew JacobsGuest
Shona MarshallGuest
Caroline StockmanGuest
[upbeat music] How can workforce learning help develop the skills organizations need for success? I'm Nigel Cassidy, and this is The CIPD Podcast.

Now, smart businesses have learned for themselves that it isn't very productive to keep managing their people in set defined job roles.

Tear down organizational silos, knock heads together, and you can then start filling those capability gaps with underused talent that you probably didn't even know you had on board, and you can focus hard on continuously re-skilling staff and recruits alike to meet business needs.

Now, our last CIPD podcast from the Festival of Work was a great primer on the benefits of becoming a skills-based organization.

But what we're going to tackle now is how you get there, and in particular, how your learning and development must change and adapt to put upskilling center stage.

Now, all that, plus stay with us because as a bonus this month at the end of this podcast, I'm meeting Caroline Stockman, the CIPD's new interim chief, to find out what she's all about.
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[upbeat music] How can workforce learning help develop the skills organizations need for success? I'm Nigel Cassidy, and this is The CIPD Podcast.

Now, smart businesses have learned for themselves that it isn't very productive to keep managing their people in set defined job roles.

Tear down organizational silos, knock heads together, and you can then start filling those capability gaps with underused talent that you probably didn't even know you had on board, and you can focus hard on continuously re-skilling staff and recruits alike to meet business needs.

Now, our last CIPD podcast from the Festival of Work was a great primer on the benefits of becoming a skills-based organization.

But what we're going to tackle now is how you get there, and in particular, how your learning and development must change and adapt to put upskilling center stage.

Now, all that, plus stay with us because as a bonus this month at the end of this podcast, I'm meeting Caroline Stockman, the CIPD's new interim chief, to find out what she's all about.