Aug 22, 2026 · 1 hr 42 min · 18 segments
In this episode, Sally chats with Mackenzie Jolliffe and Billy Garner. They take us behind the scenes of crewing Max Jolliffe during his historic Badwater 135, revealing the planning, pacing…
Billy GarnerGuestSally McRaeHost
Mackenzie JolliffeGuestI am so grateful that you decided to join us today because today we have an incredible show.
Well, I saw that like on your Instagram and it popped up in my, um, in my contacts too.
To everyone that has just started their run or maybe you just started racing, I am thrilled that you decided to bring us along.
We hope that you're inspired, that you're encouraged, and that when you finish, you are inspired to do something courageous yourself.
And for those of you that are just sitting on the couch recovering, you're watching us on YouTube, on Spotify.
And I'll tell you what, today's guests, I have been very excited about the idea of this.
And I said, I really need to have Billy and Mackenzie on because we have so many people in the Choose Strong community that will never run an ultra, aren't interested, will never do Badwater.
I feel like our audience is familiar with you, but we have never had the pleasure of having you, Billy, on the show.
And yeah, tell us a little bit about your running, because I think people are going to be surprised.
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I am so grateful that you decided to join us today because today we have an incredible show.
Well, I saw that like on your Instagram and it popped up in my, um, in my contacts too.
To everyone that has just started their run or maybe you just started racing, I am thrilled that you decided to bring us along.
We hope that you're inspired, that you're encouraged, and that when you finish, you are inspired to do something courageous yourself.
And for those of you that are just sitting on the couch recovering, you're watching us on YouTube, on Spotify.
And I'll tell you what, today's guests, I have been very excited about the idea of this.
And I said, I really need to have Billy and Mackenzie on because we have so many people in the Choose Strong community that will never run an ultra, aren't interested, will never do Badwater.
I feel like our audience is familiar with you, but we have never had the pleasure of having you, Billy, on the show.
And yeah, tell us a little bit about your running, because I think people are going to be surprised.
