Jul 5, 2026 · 34 min · 15 segments
In this talk, we take up the “Sho Sai Myo Kichijo Dharani”. DT Suzuki famously said that, “Properly speaking, the dharani has no legitimate place in Zen.” So why do we chant it? What is a magic spell…
Kynan SutherlandHost
And I sometimes feel like we forget how radical the Heart Sutra actually is.

It pulls the rug out from any kind of introduced knowing that we might bring to it.

The Heart Sutra keeps saying, look deeper, look through, experience the world directly to find out how the heart actually beats.

And so this radical upturning of all introduced knowledge is incredibly valuable.

This Heart Sutra, which is cherished from Sangha to Sangha, from country to country, from generation to generation, from time beyond time to time beyond time, this Heart Sutra keeps beating and it keeps throwing us right into the heart of the Dharma.

And I sometimes feel like we forget how radical the Heart Sutra actually is.

It pulls the rug out from any kind of introduced knowing that we might bring to it.

The Heart Sutra keeps saying, look deeper, look through, experience the world directly to find out how the heart actually beats.

And so this radical upturning of all introduced knowledge is incredibly valuable.

This Heart Sutra, which is cherished from Sangha to Sangha, from country to country, from generation to generation, from time beyond time to time beyond time, this Heart Sutra keeps beating and it keeps throwing us right into the heart of the Dharma.
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