Jul 21, 2026 · 48 min · 10 segments
Artificial intelligence is increasingly framed as an unstoppable force that will reshape economies, societies, and even human civilization. But what if that narrative is part of the problem? In this…
Virginia DignumGuestValues & Interests HostHost
Lack of control over what's happening is very much dominating public opinion, but also, and most importantly, also the, the dominating our, uh, decision-makers and policy makers around the world.

It happens, the only thing we can do is to try to address the, the consequences, but we cannot really change the, the reality.
This is one of my favorite conversations we've had recently on the podcast, and together Virginia and I dig into what it means to be human in this, quote-unquote, "AI moment." How can we push back against narratives of civilizational war and inevitability coming out of Silicon Valley and other tech developers, while at the same time attempting to regain our agency around artificial intelligence? I hope you enjoy the conversation.
Let's get right to it.
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Lack of control over what's happening is very much dominating public opinion, but also, and most importantly, also the, the dominating our, uh, decision-makers and policy makers around the world.

It happens, the only thing we can do is to try to address the, the consequences, but we cannot really change the, the reality.
This is one of my favorite conversations we've had recently on the podcast, and together Virginia and I dig into what it means to be human in this, quote-unquote, "AI moment." How can we push back against narratives of civilizational war and inevitability coming out of Silicon Valley and other tech developers, while at the same time attempting to regain our agency around artificial intelligence? I hope you enjoy the conversation.
Let's get right to it.