Jun 11, 2026 · 1 hr 12 min · 19 segments
Send us Fan Mail Martin Lightbody turned a fourth-generation Scottish bakery into the number one celebration-cake supplier to the UK supermarkets…
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Dad grew it from, he's third generation, 10 to 20 shops, and I saw the turnover go down.

And we'd just won the big award, and I said, "Dad, this is not gonna work." I don't think I was cocky, but, uh, knowing what I know now about the supermarkets-
Mm

We took the big punt and sold all the shops to Crawfords of Edinburgh, who had 100 shops, and went into a ton of debt.
[laughs]

... that house is there as well, but that is what else do you do? In the, the business career from year one to year, whatever, 10, it would've flipped between 5 and 12, 13 million.

Is it arrogance or is it fear, or is it lack of taking a punt? I don't know.
Mm.

We went for a sauna afterwards, and after 20 minutes I could see him starting to sweat profusely.

Uh, and I stood up in front of him bollock naked, and I said, "You're not getting out of here unless you take the job."
[laughs]

Even a 500 mil cake business might not excite them, but it seemed to enough.
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Dad grew it from, he's third generation, 10 to 20 shops, and I saw the turnover go down.

And we'd just won the big award, and I said, "Dad, this is not gonna work." I don't think I was cocky, but, uh, knowing what I know now about the supermarkets-
Mm

We took the big punt and sold all the shops to Crawfords of Edinburgh, who had 100 shops, and went into a ton of debt.
[laughs]

... that house is there as well, but that is what else do you do? In the, the business career from year one to year, whatever, 10, it would've flipped between 5 and 12, 13 million.

Is it arrogance or is it fear, or is it lack of taking a punt? I don't know.
Mm.

We went for a sauna afterwards, and after 20 minutes I could see him starting to sweat profusely.

Uh, and I stood up in front of him bollock naked, and I said, "You're not getting out of here unless you take the job."
[laughs]

Even a 500 mil cake business might not excite them, but it seemed to enough.