Dr Kelly Zimmerman on Spooko Podcast

And not only anti-bug propaganda that we'll get into in the specifics of this film, but what I'd like to ask you, Doctor, before we get into the actual synopsis, have you noticed that in satanic and devil focused horror movies particular they sort of use bugs as like the devil's servants like have you like

do you why do you think that is it's but oh oh man you want this to be a three hour episode you've

only got two and a half dog yeah

Even the way we name bugs.

There's a beetle called the devil stagecoach.

It's just people think bugs are yucky or dirty and carry disease, and most of them don't really.

And it's the creep factor, right? They've got, what Peach said earlier, they've got too many legs.

So they just make people uncomfortable.

And you get swarms.

This movie, we had quite a few sort of gregarious swarming insects that came up quite a few times.

Doc, please tell me you're using the word gregarious in like a technical sense, that like in the study of entomology, that's a reference to a waybug swarm.

You mean like, oh God, I forgot the regular way to use it is they're outgoing.

These aren't like outgoing peppy bugs.

They're

like a lot of red plastic cups and kegs of beer and stuff.

They're like, hey, come around to my house.

Gregarious insects.

I'm thinking of things like lady beetles, where in the fall they will come together.

but they're not colonial, right? They don't have nests.

They're not like bees or wasps or ants.

So a bug that is not colonial, but likes to come together, even maybe like a cockroach would be considered gregarious.

I love that it's a technical term.

Can I ask though that, and we will get to this film very, very soon.

And there's lots of questions I have about it.

And so I'm so glad you're able to join this episode.