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Bugs Need Heroes

Bugs Need Heroes

Bug Heroes: Joey Santore

May 18, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 24 segments

This episode we are joined by Joey Santore of Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't. Joey's website: https://www.crimepaysbutbotanydoesnt.com/ Joey's…

This episode we are joined by Joey Santore of Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't. Joey's website: https://www.crimepaysbutbotanydoesnt.com/ Joey's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crime\pays\but\botany\doesnt Joey's YouTube: https://www.instagram.com/crime\pays\but\botany\doesnt Joey's TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@crimepaysbutbotanydoesnt Joey's Book (pre-order link): https://www.crimepaysbutbotanydoesnt.com/concrete-botany-pre-order Send us questions and suggestions! [BugsNeedHeroes@gmail.com](mailto:BugsNeedHeroes@gmail.com) Join us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bugsneedheroes/ Join us on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bugsneedheroes Join us on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/BugsNeedHeroes Hosted by Amanda Niday and Kelly Zimmerman with editing by Derek Conrad and The Darling Clementine. Created by Derek Conrad and Kelly Zimmerman. Character artwork by Amanda Niday. Music is Ladybug Castle by Rolemusic.

This episode we are joined by Joey Santore of Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't. Joey's website: https://www.crimepaysbutbotanydoesnt.com/ Joey's…

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Speakers: Joey SantoreGuestKelly ZimmermanHostAmanda NidayHost

Top entities: Joey Santore×32 Philippines×5 Father×2 Americans×4 Marriott Hotels & Resorts×5

Show signals: SuitabilitySafeBiasNot politicalAudience≈167k followers

What’s Bugging You: Balcony peppers and native plant sale0:38 – 2:37

A

Amanda NidayHost

0:38

But before we talk to him, what's bugging you, Kelly?

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:41

Um, we just got our pepper plants yesterday.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:46

Well, we ordered a few peppers, and we're getting them planted up on the balcony.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:50

We, uh, I don't know, longtime listeners will know I don't have a yard.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:53

I'm in an apartment, so we have a balcony and some peppers.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:57

And for the first time, we're doing savory and, um, I think it's pezote, if I'm remembering properly.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:07

Yeah.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:07

I, I don't-

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:07

Yeah, for, for beans.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:08

I don't really know.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:10

But, but...

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:10

So.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:10

Um.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:10

Just getting ready-

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:11

Are you worried about the cats?

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:11

... for planting season.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:12

Do, do cats chew on pepper plants?

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:14

No.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:15

I mean-

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:15

My cats chew on everything, so.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:16

They, my cats don't really tend to like the pepper plants.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:19

They don't go for it.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:20

They go for everything else.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:21

Mm.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:22

But, but not that.

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What’s Bugging You: Balcony peppers and native plant sale0:38 – 2:37

A

Amanda NidayHost

0:38

But before we talk to him, what's bugging you, Kelly?

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:41

Um, we just got our pepper plants yesterday.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:46

Well, we ordered a few peppers, and we're getting them planted up on the balcony.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:50

We, uh, I don't know, longtime listeners will know I don't have a yard.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:53

I'm in an apartment, so we have a balcony and some peppers.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

0:57

And for the first time, we're doing savory and, um, I think it's pezote, if I'm remembering properly.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:07

Yeah.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:07

I, I don't-

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:07

Yeah, for, for beans.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:08

I don't really know.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:10

But, but...

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:10

So.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:10

Um.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:10

Just getting ready-

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:11

Are you worried about the cats?

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:11

... for planting season.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:12

Do, do cats chew on pepper plants?

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:14

No.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:15

I mean-

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:15

My cats chew on everything, so.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:16

They, my cats don't really tend to like the pepper plants.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:19

They don't go for it.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:20

They go for everything else.

A

Amanda NidayHost

1:21

Mm.

K

Kelly ZimmermanHost

1:22

But, but not that.

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