Bryan Hattingh's Risky Business
Jul 29, 2026 · 33 min · 9 segments
In Episode 34 of *Risky Business*, host Bryan Hattingh and co-host Jonathan Shaw take the mic together for a candid conversation on navigating uncertainty, economic strain, and personal anxiety…
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And yes, Jono, it's quite daunting for people to be facing unexpected levels of adversity that they didn't plan for.
And unfortunately, world events and certain terms of event and one immediately goes straight to the Iran crisis and all that comes with it.
which wasn't planned for or expected, has left people in a state of shock and numbness.
And, of course, further polarized groups of people who have very strong views this way and that way.
And I think that's part of what makes life fabulous, is that people are allowed to, certainly in some places, allowed to have different views and differing opinions and perspectives.
But for whatever that may be, The common denominator for many, many, many people, a high percentage of the people out there, is how am I going to get by and how are we going to get on with this? And particularly in a country like South Africa, where we've got all these additional challenges of ridiculously high unemployment rates.
We have a diminishing level of attraction, rapidly diminishing level of attraction to overseas investors.
And how do we attract funds and money into the country? Because without foreign investment, it gets very difficult to pull your economy up by your own bootstrings and to make it flourish.
And, you know, let's not even get into the issues of corruption and distraction and rhetoric and all the things that come with it.
But you know what? You can't ignore it because they add to the level of noise and clutter in people's lives.
And so in the same way as we saw during COVID, where the tsunami of negative content that proliferated on the back of COVID and the uncertainty of it, and in the early stages, wouldn't we get a vaccine? Wouldn't there be a cure for this? What was gonna happen here? Was this going to be another black plague like many hundreds of years ago? And fortunately, the world responded and we've come through it.
And yet still today, we've got the massive argument and the view that people are walking around now with damaged DNA due to the vaccine.
We still have the fact that COVID came and in many respects is still around, but not producing the fatalities like it did in the early days of it.
But what came with it at that time with the lockdown and that adversity that people had to deal with was how did we get by and how do we get past all this negative content? And we saw mental disorders on the increase.
The world, you know, people often joke about, you know, Africa is not for sissies.
Well, you know, life's not for sissies at this point in time, you know, and even that might be an improper statement, you know.
But, you know, what is a sissy? I suppose in many people's books, it's somebody who isn't able to stand up and weather the storm.
And yes, Jono, it's quite daunting for people to be facing unexpected levels of adversity that they didn't plan for.
And unfortunately, world events and certain terms of event and one immediately goes straight to the Iran crisis and all that comes with it.
which wasn't planned for or expected, has left people in a state of shock and numbness.
And, of course, further polarized groups of people who have very strong views this way and that way.
And I think that's part of what makes life fabulous, is that people are allowed to, certainly in some places, allowed to have different views and differing opinions and perspectives.
But for whatever that may be, The common denominator for many, many, many people, a high percentage of the people out there, is how am I going to get by and how are we going to get on with this? And particularly in a country like South Africa, where we've got all these additional challenges of ridiculously high unemployment rates.
We have a diminishing level of attraction, rapidly diminishing level of attraction to overseas investors.
And how do we attract funds and money into the country? Because without foreign investment, it gets very difficult to pull your economy up by your own bootstrings and to make it flourish.
And, you know, let's not even get into the issues of corruption and distraction and rhetoric and all the things that come with it.
But you know what? You can't ignore it because they add to the level of noise and clutter in people's lives.
And so in the same way as we saw during COVID, where the tsunami of negative content that proliferated on the back of COVID and the uncertainty of it, and in the early stages, wouldn't we get a vaccine? Wouldn't there be a cure for this? What was gonna happen here? Was this going to be another black plague like many hundreds of years ago? And fortunately, the world responded and we've come through it.
And yet still today, we've got the massive argument and the view that people are walking around now with damaged DNA due to the vaccine.
We still have the fact that COVID came and in many respects is still around, but not producing the fatalities like it did in the early days of it.
But what came with it at that time with the lockdown and that adversity that people had to deal with was how did we get by and how do we get past all this negative content? And we saw mental disorders on the increase.
The world, you know, people often joke about, you know, Africa is not for sissies.
Well, you know, life's not for sissies at this point in time, you know, and even that might be an improper statement, you know.
But, you know, what is a sissy? I suppose in many people's books, it's somebody who isn't able to stand up and weather the storm.
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