Feed Swap: Beneath the Apology — Shame, Image & the Illusion of Empathy with Renee Swanson & Dr. Mazella

Why does *their* apology leave you feeling like the one who did something wrong? \\ Continuing this week's feed swap, I'm sharing a conversation from Renee Swanson's *Covert Narcissism Podcast* — this time a guest interview with Dr. Anthony Mazzella, a psychodynamic therapist and host of *The Narcissism Decoder*.  Together they get underneath the behavior to the "why," unpacking what they call the illusion of empathy: the moment an apology looks like remorse but is really about image control.  A note: this is part of an ongoing series on guilt and shame, so you'll hear Renee and Dr. Mazzella reference earlier conversations and tease the next one — you can follow the whole thread on Renee's feed.  Be gentle with yourself as you listen, and reach out to a trusted person or support resource if any of it hits close to home.  Find more of Renee's work and her coaching at **covertnarcissism.com**. Follow Renee: TikTok I YouTube I Facebook I Instagram I Website Listen to the Podcast: Bleav Network - On All Platforms #covertnarcissism #gaslighting #Narcissism #npd  Submit your question to be answered on air here! EMPOWERED Voices: Recovery to Resiliency **A heartfelt podcast series that brings to light the challenges and triumphs of...** **Listen on: Apple Podcasts   Spotify** **Resources** - **The Complete Recovery Collection: Narcissistic abuse resources** - **First Steps to Leaving: Online self-paced digital course** - **Toxic-Free Relationship Club: Live coaching & community support** **Follow Kerry!** - Youtube - Instagram - TikTok - Facebook **Kerry Kerr McAvoy, Ph.D., an author and educator, helps listeners decode toxic dynamics, recognize manipulation, and rebuild self-trust.** ***As an Amazon affiliate, commission is earned from qualifying purchases.*** ***This podcast/video is for educational purposes only. It does not constitute therapy, counseling, or professional mental health advice, nor does listening create a doctor-patient or therapist-client relationship. If you or someone you know is in immediate danger, please call 911 or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling or texting 988 (US/Canada).***