Jun 4, 2026 · 30 min · 10 segments
Imani and Jess are off this week, but before the Supreme Court issues its birthright citizenship ruling in *Trump v. Barbara*, revisit this conversation with Pregnancy Justice President Lourdes Rivera…
Lourdes RiveraGuest
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So during summer sessions, Imani and I take a look at some of the biggest legal issues of the zeitgeist and break them down with the help of a guest each episode.
I love talking about the 14th Amendment, and longtime listeners of the show know that I like to call it a Black-ass amendment, right? It is a Reconstruction-
It was written after the Civil War to bring some semblance of parity between white folks and, you know, the Blacks, [laughs] as Sam Alito-
But now conservatives are pushing to basically rewrite the 14th Amendment so that it protects white grievance.
And specifically in this episode, we're exploring the connections between the push by the conservative legal movement to upend birthright citizenship and their never-ending quest by the anti-choice movement to enshrine fetal personhood into law.
And it's my favorite amendment, good old number 14, that's doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
So during summer sessions, Imani and I take a look at some of the biggest legal issues of the zeitgeist and break them down with the help of a guest each episode.
I love talking about the 14th Amendment, and longtime listeners of the show know that I like to call it a Black-ass amendment, right? It is a Reconstruction-
It was written after the Civil War to bring some semblance of parity between white folks and, you know, the Blacks, [laughs] as Sam Alito-
But now conservatives are pushing to basically rewrite the 14th Amendment so that it protects white grievance.
And specifically in this episode, we're exploring the connections between the push by the conservative legal movement to upend birthright citizenship and their never-ending quest by the anti-choice movement to enshrine fetal personhood into law.
And it's my favorite amendment, good old number 14, that's doing a lot of heavy lifting here.
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