Sep 28, 2026 · 43 min · 13 segments
Semiconductors are at the heart of every piece of electronics you interact with on a daily basis. Despite being invented and innovated in the US, much of the manufacturing of semiconductors and the…
Rand WilsonGuest
Caden MockHost
Josh ElstroHost
Today I'm joined by Rand Wilson, who has more than 40 years of experience working with a number of national and local unions.

And also Joe Termez, a Boise, Idaho-based engineer, artist, activist who has spent nearly 30 years in the semiconductor industry, currently working at Micron.

And finally, Max, who is a fab tech who's based in Oregon and currently working to unionize their workplace.

Well, let's start with a little bit of background about CHIPS Communities United and kind of the state of the semiconductor industry in this country.


I don't know, Rand, if maybe you want to start us off with sort of a big overview of what the industry looks like and why they're so critical.

Well, the industry emerged in the 1970s in Silicon Valley and blossomed and bloomed and a lot of people got rich.

But the manufacturing part of the business of making chips was offshore primarily to Asia.

in the 1980s and certainly by the 1990s, most of it was gone either to the Southwest of the United States or to Asia.

And that resulted in those countries that were building the chips for U.S., so-called U.S. firms.

They're not necessarily really U.S. companies, but those countries learned how to do the chip manufacturing themselves.

And At some point, I think, you know, lawmakers in this country realized that they'd lost a lot of jobs, but also had lost the chip making ability that is kind of critical to the economy.

And for many of them, not a priority for me, but they kind of address this as a national security issue.

So that's the origins of this Chips and Science Act in 2022. that was passed in late 2022, began to be brought into effect in 2023, that subsidized the chip industry for $52.7 billion.

Today I'm joined by Rand Wilson, who has more than 40 years of experience working with a number of national and local unions.

And also Joe Termez, a Boise, Idaho-based engineer, artist, activist who has spent nearly 30 years in the semiconductor industry, currently working at Micron.

And finally, Max, who is a fab tech who's based in Oregon and currently working to unionize their workplace.

Well, let's start with a little bit of background about CHIPS Communities United and kind of the state of the semiconductor industry in this country.


I don't know, Rand, if maybe you want to start us off with sort of a big overview of what the industry looks like and why they're so critical.

Well, the industry emerged in the 1970s in Silicon Valley and blossomed and bloomed and a lot of people got rich.

But the manufacturing part of the business of making chips was offshore primarily to Asia.

in the 1980s and certainly by the 1990s, most of it was gone either to the Southwest of the United States or to Asia.

And that resulted in those countries that were building the chips for U.S., so-called U.S. firms.

They're not necessarily really U.S. companies, but those countries learned how to do the chip manufacturing themselves.

And At some point, I think, you know, lawmakers in this country realized that they'd lost a lot of jobs, but also had lost the chip making ability that is kind of critical to the economy.

And for many of them, not a priority for me, but they kind of address this as a national security issue.

So that's the origins of this Chips and Science Act in 2022. that was passed in late 2022, began to be brought into effect in 2023, that subsidized the chip industry for $52.7 billion.
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