How The BIZ Hosts Pivoted Their Own Careers

Pivoting careers can seem like a daunting prospect. But changing course doesn't have to happen all at once. Sometimes professional pivots happen slowly over time. In this episode, Em and Lisa unpack their own career pivots, sharing the different approaches they took to change direction. From applying for jobs you might not feel 100% qualified for, to identifying a market gap and building your own business, Em and Lisa share the challenges, fears and steps they took to pivot professionally. Our BIZ hosts are Lisa Lie - a former Head of People & Culture and Organisational Coach - and Mamamia’s Em Vernem. **If you want to build skills fast check out** Learna https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKymlmzzCYg/?igsh=aXR6ZGN4emQ4bmdkSign up to the BIZ newsletter herehttps://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-risehttps://www.mamamia.com.au/podcasts/biz/ep-1-pay-rise**THE END BITS** Support independent women's media. Got a work life dilemma? Send us all the questions you definitely can't ask your boss for our Biz Inbox episodes - send us a voice note or email us at podcast@mamamia.com.au. You can remain anon!  **HOSTS:** Lisa Lie and Em Vernem **EXECUTIVE PRODUCER:** Courtney Ammenhauser **SENIOR PRODUCER:** Thom Lion **VIDEO PRODUCER:** Marlena Cacciotti *Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.* Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.