Big Adventures with Brian Dierker
Aug 18, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min · 13 segments
Kelsey Pfendler returns! She and her fiancee (congrats!) Carlos Andina sit down with Brian to discuss her record-breaking row from California to Hawaii. Please Enjoy Kelsey Pfendler! Need a refresher…
Kelsey PfendlerGuest
Brian DierkerHost
Carlos AndinaGuest
Are, are you built into s- keeping yourself so busy that occasionally when you're rowing and stuff, did you have up days? Did you have down days? Or were you pretty much on game the, do you feel, the whole way?
Um, I think most people that spend time doing long trips, I feel like I learn this a lot, especially on Gran- on Grand Canyon trips, is there's always gonna be kind of like the messy middle of a trip where, like, the adrenaline's gone from the beginning and, like, you can't see the end.
In the middle, if, if someone's gonna have, like, an emotional response or, like, you know, rough days, it's always gonna be in, like, that center where you can't see the end of it.
It's always a thing, and I think, um, that is, being aware of that is actually a huge part of, like, being able to regulate your emotions through really long trips.
And I was super aware of, like, the concept of, like, the messy middle of, like, any long trip, and I was really trying to pay attention to that the whole time.
But honestly, like, there is something about me that I think makes me good at the, th- this thing specifically, is I'm, I love, like, kind of boring, repetitive things.
Like, I love a routine more than almost anyone I know, where, like, I will have a task and the task will be far away and I'll be like, "Okay, task over there.
What are the tiny steps I need to do to get there?" And then I, like, really like, like, small-
Are, are you built into s- keeping yourself so busy that occasionally when you're rowing and stuff, did you have up days? Did you have down days? Or were you pretty much on game the, do you feel, the whole way?
Um, I think most people that spend time doing long trips, I feel like I learn this a lot, especially on Gran- on Grand Canyon trips, is there's always gonna be kind of like the messy middle of a trip where, like, the adrenaline's gone from the beginning and, like, you can't see the end.
In the middle, if, if someone's gonna have, like, an emotional response or, like, you know, rough days, it's always gonna be in, like, that center where you can't see the end of it.
It's always a thing, and I think, um, that is, being aware of that is actually a huge part of, like, being able to regulate your emotions through really long trips.
And I was super aware of, like, the concept of, like, the messy middle of, like, any long trip, and I was really trying to pay attention to that the whole time.
But honestly, like, there is something about me that I think makes me good at the, th- this thing specifically, is I'm, I love, like, kind of boring, repetitive things.
Like, I love a routine more than almost anyone I know, where, like, I will have a task and the task will be far away and I'll be like, "Okay, task over there.
What are the tiny steps I need to do to get there?" And then I, like, really like, like, small-
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