Beyond Four Walls - With Jodie Fraser
Aug 31, 2026 · 52 min · 12 segments
**What happens when the bullying stops, but the impact doesn’t?** In this episode of Beyond Four Walls, Jodie is joined by **Linda James MBE, Founder and CEO of BulliesOut**, a charity dedicated to…
Linda JamesGuest
Jodie FraserHost
So can you just take me back, first of all, to what first inspired you to set up the charity?

So it was I was bullied myself and it had a real long term negative effects for me.

And then when my youngest son was in his last year of primary school, you know, you notice a behavior change, you know, your own children, you notice a behavior change.

He said that there was, uh, one particular child, uh, but you know, like a lot of bullying situations, they are, there's always sort of like a ringleader.

And then they have a, you know, maybe a following and he was being picked on and they wouldn't stop.

And I said, you know, and they tried to blame my son and said, oh, well, he's different.

And, you know, these were just, for me, such feeble excuses because, you know, whereas he would prefer rugby to football.

And there are so many children and young people that have a choice in sport and they have a choice as to whether they're creative, artistic, musical.

Do you know what I mean? And you can't just start using that as an excuse anymore.

And then one day, like I said, I was in and out of this school and at each time I could feel myself getting more and more emotive.

I was trying to put my own emotions, you know, under wraps and said, you know, you've got to deal with this.

So can you just take me back, first of all, to what first inspired you to set up the charity?

So it was I was bullied myself and it had a real long term negative effects for me.

And then when my youngest son was in his last year of primary school, you know, you notice a behavior change, you know, your own children, you notice a behavior change.

He said that there was, uh, one particular child, uh, but you know, like a lot of bullying situations, they are, there's always sort of like a ringleader.

And then they have a, you know, maybe a following and he was being picked on and they wouldn't stop.

And I said, you know, and they tried to blame my son and said, oh, well, he's different.

And, you know, these were just, for me, such feeble excuses because, you know, whereas he would prefer rugby to football.

And there are so many children and young people that have a choice in sport and they have a choice as to whether they're creative, artistic, musical.

Do you know what I mean? And you can't just start using that as an excuse anymore.

And then one day, like I said, I was in and out of this school and at each time I could feel myself getting more and more emotive.

I was trying to put my own emotions, you know, under wraps and said, you know, you've got to deal with this.
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