Elizabeth WallaceGuestCheryl MossHostAll of the children, if they learn to make compassionate decision-making skills and using empathy, then I think that that can be carried on.
And I mean, countless lives could be saved just by that one person that uses something like this.

So taking a chance, putting yourself out there, trying this curriculum, trying something different can have that ripple effect that can impact so many different people and animals' lives.
Welcome to the Better Life for Animals podcast, where we amplify the voices of animal advocates, sanctuaries, and changemakers working toward a kinder, more compassionate world.
Through powerful stories and expert insights, we shine a light on the efforts to rescue, protect, and advocate for animals.
Be sure to subscribe wherever you're watching or listening.
Every follower helps us reach more people and support animal sanctuaries.
Enjoy the conversation.
Our guests are Chris Taylor and Elizabeth Wallace, compassionate forces helping to guide this work at Chi 38.
At Chi 38, Chris, Elizabeth, and the team provide lifelong care for rescued animals while also educating visitors about who those animals are as individuals, not units or products.
Their mission is rooted in empathy, connection, and creating a more compassionate world for all beings.
As a lifelong vegetarian and vegan for over a decade, Elizabeth began working with Chi38 in the spring of 2022 and brings her background as a licensed teacher and senior training developer to bridge the gap between helping animals and teaching people.
In this conversation, we'll talk about how Chi 38 began, what sanctuary life really looks and feels like, and how encounters with animals can transform the way we move through the world.
If you've ever wondered what goes into building a place where animals can finally exhale and heal, you're in the right place.
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All of the children, if they learn to make compassionate decision-making skills and using empathy, then I think that that can be carried on.
And I mean, countless lives could be saved just by that one person that uses something like this.

So taking a chance, putting yourself out there, trying this curriculum, trying something different can have that ripple effect that can impact so many different people and animals' lives.
Welcome to the Better Life for Animals podcast, where we amplify the voices of animal advocates, sanctuaries, and changemakers working toward a kinder, more compassionate world.
Through powerful stories and expert insights, we shine a light on the efforts to rescue, protect, and advocate for animals.
Be sure to subscribe wherever you're watching or listening.
Every follower helps us reach more people and support animal sanctuaries.
Enjoy the conversation.
Our guests are Chris Taylor and Elizabeth Wallace, compassionate forces helping to guide this work at Chi 38.
At Chi 38, Chris, Elizabeth, and the team provide lifelong care for rescued animals while also educating visitors about who those animals are as individuals, not units or products.
Their mission is rooted in empathy, connection, and creating a more compassionate world for all beings.
As a lifelong vegetarian and vegan for over a decade, Elizabeth began working with Chi38 in the spring of 2022 and brings her background as a licensed teacher and senior training developer to bridge the gap between helping animals and teaching people.
In this conversation, we'll talk about how Chi 38 began, what sanctuary life really looks and feels like, and how encounters with animals can transform the way we move through the world.
If you've ever wondered what goes into building a place where animals can finally exhale and heal, you're in the right place.