Jun 5, 2026 · 18 min · 5 segments
About the Host Dr. Toby Brooks is a renowned professor, author, speaker, and performance scientist with over 20 years of experience as an athletic trainer and strength coach, spanning professional…
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He's now the pastor at Reliant Church, and something he said's been kind of rattling around in my head ever since.
He said, "Pressure's gonna expose what's forming you." Go back and listen to that episode if you haven't.
[clock ticking] [clock ringing] But what I keep coming back to isn't the pressure part, it's the forming part.
He was trying to make somebody better than they currently were, and somewhere along the way, he found out what most of us who work with people eventually find out.
Now, I want to be honest with you about something, because I think it might be the most useful thing I could say today.
For most of my adult life, thirty-plus years of teaching and coaching and leading and mentoring, I've carried guilt over the people that I couldn't reach.
It's the kind that has you questioning your effectiveness as a leader, as a teacher, as a human every time somebody doesn't respond the way you hoped that they would.
I've had athletes with every physical gift imaginable who refuse to do the work, and I've had students who were the smartest people in the room, but they were completely unwilling to apply.
I've had people come to me asking for help, asking for guidance, asking for someone to believe in them, and then they systematically ignore everything I offered.
What I didn't have then was a framework for understanding what was actually happening, until Chris mentioned the idea of the fourth quarter in our conversation.
I went back to a story I've heard a hundred times, and I finally paid attention to the right character.
He's now the pastor at Reliant Church, and something he said's been kind of rattling around in my head ever since.
He said, "Pressure's gonna expose what's forming you." Go back and listen to that episode if you haven't.
[clock ticking] [clock ringing] But what I keep coming back to isn't the pressure part, it's the forming part.
He was trying to make somebody better than they currently were, and somewhere along the way, he found out what most of us who work with people eventually find out.
Now, I want to be honest with you about something, because I think it might be the most useful thing I could say today.
For most of my adult life, thirty-plus years of teaching and coaching and leading and mentoring, I've carried guilt over the people that I couldn't reach.
It's the kind that has you questioning your effectiveness as a leader, as a teacher, as a human every time somebody doesn't respond the way you hoped that they would.
I've had athletes with every physical gift imaginable who refuse to do the work, and I've had students who were the smartest people in the room, but they were completely unwilling to apply.
I've had people come to me asking for help, asking for guidance, asking for someone to believe in them, and then they systematically ignore everything I offered.
What I didn't have then was a framework for understanding what was actually happening, until Chris mentioned the idea of the fourth quarter in our conversation.
I went back to a story I've heard a hundred times, and I finally paid attention to the right character.
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