⏮ REWIND // Leigh Ann Cobb: Awkward Art Kid

Okay.

Okay.

So then my next question about that is because you've done this for so long, do you notice in the moment ways now that you can direct and bring the conversation back? Right.

Because you're on, is it season three or four now?

This is four.

Oh, my God.

Wow.

Oh, congratulations.

Yeah, thank you.

Dude, that's so nuts.

I mean, the amount of...

And I actually don't even know the story about how you got started into this platform.

It

was completely like, I'm feeling...

Not stuck, but maybe disconnected from the creative community in Grand Rapids and even larger than that.

I've been working for myself at the time for a little over four years or maybe just about four years.

And I was like, man, I fucking miss people.

So it was partially a vehicle initially to kind of get back out into the scene and meet people and, you know, broaden my contacts and make some friends and all this good stuff.

And then also, you know, I get the opportunity to sit down with some like.

wildly talented and creative people that, you know, like there, there's been something at least from every conversation I've had where I'm like, I'm going to put that in the utility belt and I'm going to use that to make myself a better creative.

So yeah, it's been, yeah, it's fucking great.

It's

so rewarding.

That's so, so cool.

And I do, I love that.