Kayla TurpinGuest
Aaron McCallHost
Joe MattesonHost
... and also, you know, seeking both internal and external validation despite what we say we need or don't need.

And the film thing is so cool to me because it's just part of a process that she's, like, not willing to budge on.

Like, um, so for instance, as an illustrator, like, you're almost expected in 2026 to-

... uh, show your process online, and there's all kinds of videos that's like, "Oh, you have to show it.

My, my process is mine, um, and, like, as, like, an audience, like, you're not entitled to it.

Like, that's, that part's just for me, and you know, like, um, I don't wanna film it.

... and also, you know, seeking both internal and external validation despite what we say we need or don't need.

And the film thing is so cool to me because it's just part of a process that she's, like, not willing to budge on.

Like, um, so for instance, as an illustrator, like, you're almost expected in 2026 to-

... uh, show your process online, and there's all kinds of videos that's like, "Oh, you have to show it.

My, my process is mine, um, and, like, as, like, an audience, like, you're not entitled to it.

Like, that's, that part's just for me, and you know, like, um, I don't wanna film it.
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