Aug 29, 2026 · 35 min · 11 segments
Rowan Potgieter (SA Home Loans) and Keenen Moodley (Rewardsco), with Jonathan Oaker (CloudZA), on why the bottleneck is no longer the model but the data, platforms and governance underneath it, and…
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And in today's episode, recorded live at the AWS Summit in Johannesburg, we will be talking with Rowan Potgieter, Head of DevOps and IT Infrastructure at SA Home Loans, Keenan Moodley, Head of Information Security and Fraud at RewardsCo, and Jonathan Oker, Founder and CEO of CloudSA, about why almost every AI project in South Africa is still stuck in pilot mode, while the models themselves are good enough.
What we want to explore is what it actually takes to get AI out of the pilot and into the engine room.
Jonathan, set the scene for us.
The AI models are good enough, yet almost every AI project in South Africa is still stuck in pilot mode.
What is actually broken underneath?
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