Jun 17, 2026 · 58 min · 11 segments
Send us Fan Mail What kind of society are we creating when cruelty becomes entertainment? This week on Ava Devine's Bad Advice, I sit down with…
Ryan WinderGuestAva DevineHostWhat kind of society are we creating when cruelty becomes entertainment? This week on Ava Devine's Bad Advice, I sit down with therapist Ryan Winder, who specializes in a number of things such as trauma.
He unpacks a question that has been on my mind after receiving recent online attacks.
Why do some people build platforms around mocking, humiliating, and degrading others?

And basically what it means is like people are kind of like taking the humanness out of people and just kind of seeing them as a character.
We explore the psychology behind public ridicule, bullying, body shaming, slut shaming, and attacks against LGBTQ plus community.

But I think individually, they're looking for group validation, the attention of social media, and maybe even to some degree, depending on the situation, their own insecurities are kind of coming
The conversation examines insecurity, projection, group thinking, toxic masculinity, outrage culture, parasocial audiences, and the emotional rewards people receive when they make others feel small.
So get cozy if you're watching from home and turn up the volume if you're listening.
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What kind of society are we creating when cruelty becomes entertainment? This week on Ava Devine's Bad Advice, I sit down with therapist Ryan Winder, who specializes in a number of things such as trauma.
He unpacks a question that has been on my mind after receiving recent online attacks.
Why do some people build platforms around mocking, humiliating, and degrading others?

And basically what it means is like people are kind of like taking the humanness out of people and just kind of seeing them as a character.
We explore the psychology behind public ridicule, bullying, body shaming, slut shaming, and attacks against LGBTQ plus community.

But I think individually, they're looking for group validation, the attention of social media, and maybe even to some degree, depending on the situation, their own insecurities are kind of coming
The conversation examines insecurity, projection, group thinking, toxic masculinity, outrage culture, parasocial audiences, and the emotional rewards people receive when they make others feel small.
So get cozy if you're watching from home and turn up the volume if you're listening.