Jul 9, 2026 · 44 min · 10 segments
How can humans and artificial intelligence (AI) applications work together as a hybrid intelligence in a positive way for organisations, projects and individuals? There’s a lot of chatter on the…
James GarnerGuest
Stephanie StaceyGuestEmma De VitaHost
Well, in some ways, it feels like we've been talking about this forever because it's been, you know, three years or so of a lot of hype.

But in actual fact, it's still very, very early in certainly the generative AI revolution.

We're in this awkward middle phase where some people are still at the very beginning.

And then you've got these people in the middle who are not quite sure they're tinkering.


There's a big gap between people who've had a play, had a tinker, had an experiment, might use it to help them with the odd email.

So we're facing this thing that I call the capability gap, which is whereas AI adoption, and I'm using explanation marks here, in companies is going up.
Do you feel like you've got a bit of an overview across projects and programs? Are most people you're meeting across different sectors, for example, across different organizations, somewhere in the middle? Is that where most people are or like early on in the, I guess, journey?

It's really, I don't know what you find, Stephanie, but it's really unpredictable.

I do plenty of talks like Stephanie and you can go and do a talk and there'll be a room full of real enthusiasts.

You've just got, happen to have a bunch of people who are steaming ahead and doing really interesting things, gentrically, et cetera, et cetera.

And then you can do another one where you've still got, I did one the other week.

Well, in some ways, it feels like we've been talking about this forever because it's been, you know, three years or so of a lot of hype.

But in actual fact, it's still very, very early in certainly the generative AI revolution.

We're in this awkward middle phase where some people are still at the very beginning.

And then you've got these people in the middle who are not quite sure they're tinkering.


There's a big gap between people who've had a play, had a tinker, had an experiment, might use it to help them with the odd email.

So we're facing this thing that I call the capability gap, which is whereas AI adoption, and I'm using explanation marks here, in companies is going up.
Do you feel like you've got a bit of an overview across projects and programs? Are most people you're meeting across different sectors, for example, across different organizations, somewhere in the middle? Is that where most people are or like early on in the, I guess, journey?

It's really, I don't know what you find, Stephanie, but it's really unpredictable.

I do plenty of talks like Stephanie and you can go and do a talk and there'll be a room full of real enthusiasts.

You've just got, happen to have a bunch of people who are steaming ahead and doing really interesting things, gentrically, et cetera, et cetera.

And then you can do another one where you've still got, I did one the other week.
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