
Yeah, so just generally Martin, we do try to talk about good news, you know, to identify good news items from around the world where we can.

Not to not to kind of pretend that everything is well in the world of human-animal relations, because it clearly isn't, and the challenges are still massive.

But nevertheless, as we've discussed many times, it is important to show that the change is possible.

It's not as... um extensive as we'd like but nevertheless it is important to give recognition and the recognition as well to all the really hard work of of campaigners and uh supporters generally so yeah you mentioned the the legal case you were away martin luxuriating with uh catherine on a yacht in the in the greek islands so um as i say there was last week a really important um animal freedom of information decision in the uk This was a decision by a specially convened three-judge panel of the Upper Tribunal, which is the equivalent of the High Court in England and Wales in the tribunal system.
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Yeah, so just generally Martin, we do try to talk about good news, you know, to identify good news items from around the world where we can.

Not to not to kind of pretend that everything is well in the world of human-animal relations, because it clearly isn't, and the challenges are still massive.

But nevertheless, as we've discussed many times, it is important to show that the change is possible.

It's not as... um extensive as we'd like but nevertheless it is important to give recognition and the recognition as well to all the really hard work of of campaigners and uh supporters generally so yeah you mentioned the the legal case you were away martin luxuriating with uh catherine on a yacht in the in the greek islands so um as i say there was last week a really important um animal freedom of information decision in the uk This was a decision by a specially convened three-judge panel of the Upper Tribunal, which is the equivalent of the High Court in England and Wales in the tribunal system.