All There Is with Anderson Cooper
May 21, 2026 · 28 min · 10 segments
Today show co-host Sheinelle Jones' husband, Uche Ojeh, died in May 2025 from glioblastoma. Seven months later, she lost her grandmother. She talks with Anderson Cooper about parenting after loss and…
Sheinelle JonesGuest
Anderson CooperHost
You, along with all the people that you've talked with, when you hear other people share, it is healing, and you don't feel as isolated.
You feel less alone, and so I feel like you've created this beautiful quilt of, like, nurturing our hearts, and so I am honored to be part of this quilt.
So recent, and the truth of the matter is, after he was diagnosed, I still thought he would beat it.
It was just a matter of finding which trial or something, but I knew that he was going to beat it.
The first time the doctors recommended hospice, I said, "No." I wanted him to be able to be home.
He wanted to be home, and I was like, "I'll do it." And he's big, no, he's strong, and I, I was trying to do all the things, you know, lifting and all the things.
And we have a lot of stairs, so that became a bit of a challenge, and I did it for maybe two or three months on my own.
There are people who do this for years, and anyone listening, if you are a caretaker, God bless you.
I just did a interview with a l- a woman who has a very aggressive form of brain cancer, and she's trying to prepare her kids.
My mom's dad died when she was 15 months old, and she had this fantasy her entire life that he had left her some letter somewhere that might arrive in the mail, and I sort of had that fantasy for my dad as well.
Because if I say, "Hey, I think you should write something for the kids," that means that I think you're not gonna make it.
And there was one point where I said, "Why don't you write it? And then at our daughter's wedding, we'll read it, and we'll show that you're still here." And I think for him to write it would have been accepting that maybe it wasn't gonna go that way, his way, and I don't think he was willing to do that.
And I think by the time he was like, "Okay, maybe," I think it was probably too late.
You, along with all the people that you've talked with, when you hear other people share, it is healing, and you don't feel as isolated.
You feel less alone, and so I feel like you've created this beautiful quilt of, like, nurturing our hearts, and so I am honored to be part of this quilt.
So recent, and the truth of the matter is, after he was diagnosed, I still thought he would beat it.
It was just a matter of finding which trial or something, but I knew that he was going to beat it.
The first time the doctors recommended hospice, I said, "No." I wanted him to be able to be home.
He wanted to be home, and I was like, "I'll do it." And he's big, no, he's strong, and I, I was trying to do all the things, you know, lifting and all the things.
And we have a lot of stairs, so that became a bit of a challenge, and I did it for maybe two or three months on my own.
There are people who do this for years, and anyone listening, if you are a caretaker, God bless you.
I just did a interview with a l- a woman who has a very aggressive form of brain cancer, and she's trying to prepare her kids.
My mom's dad died when she was 15 months old, and she had this fantasy her entire life that he had left her some letter somewhere that might arrive in the mail, and I sort of had that fantasy for my dad as well.
Because if I say, "Hey, I think you should write something for the kids," that means that I think you're not gonna make it.
And there was one point where I said, "Why don't you write it? And then at our daughter's wedding, we'll read it, and we'll show that you're still here." And I think for him to write it would have been accepting that maybe it wasn't gonna go that way, his way, and I don't think he was willing to do that.
And I think by the time he was like, "Okay, maybe," I think it was probably too late.
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