All There Is with Anderson Cooper
Apr 22, 2026 · 45 min · 16 segments
Rachel and Jon Goldberg-Polin talk with Anderson Cooper about their evolving understanding of grief since the murder of their son Hersh by Hamas after 328 days in captivity. For more of “All There Is…
Rachel Goldberg-PolinGuest
Anderson CooperHostJon Goldberg-PolinGuestFrom the second that Hersh was stolen, we plummeted down this rabbit hole odyssey of curvy torment, first for 330 days, and then once Hersh was murdered and we found out about that, we entered even another layer of otherness within this different world that we've been in, and that's where we live now.
It's deep longing to smiling as I remember something as simple as sitting on the couch and talking to him, but it's always there.
I really start my day, the first words out of my mouth are to him while I'm still in bed, before I start my morning prayers, and there's a lot of dialogue throughout the day, and he's very present, and his presence is really a comfort, and it's a reminder of this delicious blessing of having had him.
I don't associate him with the sadness, but then there's this longing.
Like, I am thirsty for him, and this craving that I think intensifies.
There are people who say, "Well, if you're still grieving after X amount of time, then you have a disorder." Yes, I do, and I'm really proud of it, and I thought the etymology of disorder, dis from the Latin means opposite.
Disease or disagree or what have you, and so disorder, I am out of order, and my life, in many ways, was out of order because I buried my son.
From the second that Hersh was stolen, we plummeted down this rabbit hole odyssey of curvy torment, first for 330 days, and then once Hersh was murdered and we found out about that, we entered even another layer of otherness within this different world that we've been in, and that's where we live now.
It's deep longing to smiling as I remember something as simple as sitting on the couch and talking to him, but it's always there.
I really start my day, the first words out of my mouth are to him while I'm still in bed, before I start my morning prayers, and there's a lot of dialogue throughout the day, and he's very present, and his presence is really a comfort, and it's a reminder of this delicious blessing of having had him.
I don't associate him with the sadness, but then there's this longing.
Like, I am thirsty for him, and this craving that I think intensifies.
There are people who say, "Well, if you're still grieving after X amount of time, then you have a disorder." Yes, I do, and I'm really proud of it, and I thought the etymology of disorder, dis from the Latin means opposite.
Disease or disagree or what have you, and so disorder, I am out of order, and my life, in many ways, was out of order because I buried my son.
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