Aug 26, 2026 · 55 min · 13 segments
Is the terminal becoming the IDE, or is the IDE becoming an agent? Kai has spent two days living in Orca, a terminal-shaped harness that runs Claude Code, Codex and friends side by side, with…
about orca sorry i couldn't see your breakdown but you've used herder i've used cmux so maybe you can show orca and explain how you like it compared to herder
i saw that you were trying to do a comparison between two agents kind of boring just show me like something interesting
oh okay well let me just share my screen i mean i've only really used it for like two days solidly solidly two days is that a lot it's not much is it so for example What do I like about it? Okay.
So one thing I like about it is, is that it's supports all the different agents easily i like how it's like kind of terminal based in a way like the tabs are kind of terminals
looks like cmax and then uh it's easy to start a new work tree with a different thing and different configuration it has has mobile so that that's a killer feature for me so that so that so now i can you know check out what's going on my mobile
But they must still have some type of control plane for your mobile app to connect to your MacBook, right? Some type of reverse tunnel?
Well, I mean, I manage my own LAN and I use Tailscale, so I don't use their stuff.
So is there a requirement that your mobile phone and the Mac are on the same network? Yeah, exactly.
So you can set up a VPN and then you can be out of a home and they can still be on a network, on a virtual network.
So somebody, well, when they replay it, this code will no longer be valid, right?
about orca sorry i couldn't see your breakdown but you've used herder i've used cmux so maybe you can show orca and explain how you like it compared to herder
i saw that you were trying to do a comparison between two agents kind of boring just show me like something interesting
oh okay well let me just share my screen i mean i've only really used it for like two days solidly solidly two days is that a lot it's not much is it so for example What do I like about it? Okay.
So one thing I like about it is, is that it's supports all the different agents easily i like how it's like kind of terminal based in a way like the tabs are kind of terminals
looks like cmax and then uh it's easy to start a new work tree with a different thing and different configuration it has has mobile so that that's a killer feature for me so that so that so now i can you know check out what's going on my mobile
But they must still have some type of control plane for your mobile app to connect to your MacBook, right? Some type of reverse tunnel?
Well, I mean, I manage my own LAN and I use Tailscale, so I don't use their stuff.
So is there a requirement that your mobile phone and the Mac are on the same network? Yeah, exactly.
So you can set up a VPN and then you can be out of a home and they can still be on a network, on a virtual network.
So somebody, well, when they replay it, this code will no longer be valid, right?
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