Oct 6, 2026 · 43 min · 11 segments
What becomes investable when your time horizon is 20 or 30 years, rather than two or three? That’s the underlying question in this conversation with Mwiya Musokotwane, co-founder and CEO of Thebe…
Chipo MuwowoHostWell, In my view, real assets are the foundation for all sorts of development, whether it be industrial or energy or services.
Whatever use case an entrepreneur seeks to utilize a piece of land starts with someone who's a real asset developer taking a view, building core infrastructure required to allow an entrepreneur to do whatever it is that they do best, and then the story of that particular thesis then just flows there from.
So we see real assets as the foundational piece that is necessary to allow other people to do whatever it is they happen to be good at.
And so inevitably, a whole lot of infrastructure needs to be built before anyone else who's an entrepreneur can make use of it and be productive.
You know, the government was the one thinking about building things like power stations or towns and settlements or roads or wastewater systems or logistics infrastructure from anything from warehouses to railways to refineries and pipelines.
They don't have the capacity to do all those things and educate their citizens and provide for healthcare and so on and so forth.
And so the private has to come in and take on the role that the government historically did.
You might not be able to do this for every single thing because sometimes a piece of infrastructure has a negative economic return, but a very positive social return.
Where a positive economic return exists, the private sector can take on the role of doing those things.
If you look at larger businesses in, say, Zambia, for example, where I happen to work from, companies like Zambief, they were founded in the 90s when infrastructure in this country was really derelict and the supply chains to execute their vision were going to be very large.
And these businesses then had to end up becoming every single part of the infrastructure support they needed.
And that's before they actually start doing what we're supposed to be doing, which is selling meat.
Well, In my view, real assets are the foundation for all sorts of development, whether it be industrial or energy or services.
Whatever use case an entrepreneur seeks to utilize a piece of land starts with someone who's a real asset developer taking a view, building core infrastructure required to allow an entrepreneur to do whatever it is that they do best, and then the story of that particular thesis then just flows there from.
So we see real assets as the foundational piece that is necessary to allow other people to do whatever it is they happen to be good at.
And so inevitably, a whole lot of infrastructure needs to be built before anyone else who's an entrepreneur can make use of it and be productive.
You know, the government was the one thinking about building things like power stations or towns and settlements or roads or wastewater systems or logistics infrastructure from anything from warehouses to railways to refineries and pipelines.
They don't have the capacity to do all those things and educate their citizens and provide for healthcare and so on and so forth.
And so the private has to come in and take on the role that the government historically did.
You might not be able to do this for every single thing because sometimes a piece of infrastructure has a negative economic return, but a very positive social return.
Where a positive economic return exists, the private sector can take on the role of doing those things.
If you look at larger businesses in, say, Zambia, for example, where I happen to work from, companies like Zambief, they were founded in the 90s when infrastructure in this country was really derelict and the supply chains to execute their vision were going to be very large.
And these businesses then had to end up becoming every single part of the infrastructure support they needed.
And that's before they actually start doing what we're supposed to be doing, which is selling meat.
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