Jul 15, 2026 · 51 min · 11 segments
On this episode, Matt Singletary and I reflect on lessons from the field on leadership, team dynamics, and common misconceptions that apply surprisingly well to AEC. We talk about football, Matt's own…
Matt SingletaryGuest
Keelan CoxHost
So I want to explain why I think this is a really useful conversation because it's not like obvious on the surface.
We met while we were doing a leadership course for a weekend, like the long weekend requirement for the master's degree.
And so the more I was sort of eavesdropping, I was like, that would be a really interesting conversation because you have in construction workers and kind of anyone who works with their bodies.
you have the ability to do something at presumably a high level until you get injured or until you're fired or, you know, whatever, pick your poison, name it.
And I think you had mentioned something about like when pro athletes are are either let go of or injured or something that is also a challenge that NFL players have
so that's sort of what sparked the idea of having this episode with you and then as we were discussing this something else kind of came out which was the NFL teams in and of themselves aren't too dissimilar to how our corporate teams work and specifically in this industry.
So I think after we've spoken and I've sort of briefed you on the AEC world, maybe you can start off by Talking about how you see the similarities in an NFL, more as a team rather than the league or the game, compared to an AEC firm, basically.
In the NFL or any type of professional sport and AEC, you don't choose your team.
You know, in sports, you might get drafted or you might get signed as an undrafted free agent or you might get traded for.
And AEC, you have teams that get assembled by circumstance, you know, and choose your subs.
So I want to explain why I think this is a really useful conversation because it's not like obvious on the surface.
We met while we were doing a leadership course for a weekend, like the long weekend requirement for the master's degree.
And so the more I was sort of eavesdropping, I was like, that would be a really interesting conversation because you have in construction workers and kind of anyone who works with their bodies.
you have the ability to do something at presumably a high level until you get injured or until you're fired or, you know, whatever, pick your poison, name it.
And I think you had mentioned something about like when pro athletes are are either let go of or injured or something that is also a challenge that NFL players have
so that's sort of what sparked the idea of having this episode with you and then as we were discussing this something else kind of came out which was the NFL teams in and of themselves aren't too dissimilar to how our corporate teams work and specifically in this industry.
So I think after we've spoken and I've sort of briefed you on the AEC world, maybe you can start off by Talking about how you see the similarities in an NFL, more as a team rather than the league or the game, compared to an AEC firm, basically.
In the NFL or any type of professional sport and AEC, you don't choose your team.
You know, in sports, you might get drafted or you might get signed as an undrafted free agent or you might get traded for.
And AEC, you have teams that get assembled by circumstance, you know, and choose your subs.
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