A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast
Sep 23, 2026 · 33 min · 11 segments
Temporomandibular disorders (TMD) affect millions of patients, yet they remain widely misunderstood. In this episode, Jessica and Dave explore a new way of thinking about TMD with Dr. Anthony…
Anthony UrbanekGuestJessica AtkinsonHostDavid TorresHost
And the patients came in and at one point or another said, thanks, you know, my pain's gone.

And after about 24 cases, I realized I had no idea what the cause was i'm no idea what i was

true but it worked right so i went back to the books i mean again you know i went back to the books i have this broad background knowledge md dds cell biology anatomy two years with nih and i went back to the and especially anatomy and And this is what I discovered.

And I'm going to, because we have limited time here, I want to just spell it out and then, you know, fact check it if you'd like.

The orthopedic surgeons, if they had kept control of this joint, these joints, the temporomandibular joints, this problem would have been solved 70 years ago.

Because the orthopedic surgeons knew all about what I'm about ready to tell you.

So the data has been known by the medical profession, orthopedics particularly, for a long time, decades, decades and decades.

And maybe, Jessica, this is maybe what you teach your hygienist when you teach them.

And the patients came in and at one point or another said, thanks, you know, my pain's gone.

And after about 24 cases, I realized I had no idea what the cause was i'm no idea what i was

true but it worked right so i went back to the books i mean again you know i went back to the books i have this broad background knowledge md dds cell biology anatomy two years with nih and i went back to the and especially anatomy and And this is what I discovered.

And I'm going to, because we have limited time here, I want to just spell it out and then, you know, fact check it if you'd like.

The orthopedic surgeons, if they had kept control of this joint, these joints, the temporomandibular joints, this problem would have been solved 70 years ago.

Because the orthopedic surgeons knew all about what I'm about ready to tell you.

So the data has been known by the medical profession, orthopedics particularly, for a long time, decades, decades and decades.

And maybe, Jessica, this is maybe what you teach your hygienist when you teach them.
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