AIDS 2060 Ep04: Climate Change as the Great Disruptor of the Global HIV Response (with Arthur Snell)

In this episode of AIDS 2060, Ben explores how the climate crisis may disrupt the global HIV response with diplomat, author, and podcaster Arthur Snell, marking the U.S. launch of Snell’s book Elemental: The New Geography of Climate Change and How We Survive It. They discuss climate-driven population movements globally (from the Sahel to Central America and even within the U.S.), the political rise of hard-line migration policies, and how populism and disinformation can undermine science-based health and climate action. Snell outlines Africa’s potential as an energy superpower through critical minerals, agriculture, and renewable electricity exports enabled by new transmission technology, while Ben notes HIV risks linked to large male workforces and urban migration. The conversation also covers wildfire-related health impacts, pandemic risks from warming and thawing regions, and the need to rebuild trust and plan for food security and mobility beyond 2030. 00:00 Climate Crisis Meets HIV 01:29 Introducing Arthur Snell 02:10 Snell’s Diplomatic Journey 06:20 Surviving a Hotter World 09:02 Climate Migration Goes Global 13:37 Heat and Relocation in the West 17:35 Africa’s Energy Opportunity 20:44 Renewables and Global Power Grids 25:02 HIV Risks in New Economies 27:31 Populism and Misinformation 29:29 Populism Meets Denial 30:32 Net Zero Under Attack 32:09 Disaster Spin Machine 34:17 HIV Echoes Populism 37:01 Brexit Lessons on Emotion 39:13 Wildfires Health Toll 42:35 Firefighting and Solidarity 44:21 Thawing Ice Pandemic Risk 47:47 Trust Over Technocracy 50:46 Mobility Food and Futures 02:18 Closing Thanks and Next Steps **Check out Arthur’s Book:** Elemental: The New Geography of Climate Change and How We Survive it https://www.londonreviewbookshop.co.uk/stock/elemental-the-new-geography-of-climate-change-and-how-we-survive-it-the-first-comprehensive-account-of-the-geopolitics-of-climate-change-arthu **Check out Ben’s Substack:** https://substack.com/@benplumley1 **Join the Conversation!** How do you see the future of global health unfolding? Share your thoughts in the comments! **Subscribe & Stay Updated:** Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast platform. Watch on YouTube & subscribe for more in-depth global health.