Zoe Williams

... for violence against women, uh, domestic violence, domestic abuse, et cetera.

So, you know, the, and Zoe Williams has done a fantastic article in The Guardian on it this week.

We'll, we'll share a link in the show notes.

But, you know, these are people who will write that off as, "Well, that's just lads being lads."

Haven't worked out the details.

A few examples to get it going: Mark Twain, Adolf Hitler, Zoe Williams [laughing], The Guardian writer.

Do we have beef with Zoe Williams?

She wrote a piece asking why we're such bros on this podcast.

Oh, yeah.

Okay.

Zoe Williams.

So the thing which gave everybody in the Labor Party or the, the kind of left, center-left of the Labor Party hope about Andy Burnham, what made them want him to, um, contest Makefield in the first place was that, you know, he was th- he was seen as this quite Blairite suit and, and he contested the leadership twice as that Blairite suit.

And then was radicalized by the blood scandal, was radicalized by Hillsborough, was radicalized by the COVID and the inequalities that were kind of thrown up by then, by them, and, um, came out as somebody who genuinely appeared to have some values.

... not just about what they've experienced with the heat, the wildfires they've seen, but also we got questions from farmers who've been dealing with drought, and what that means for them individually, but also questions about food security.

I just wanted to share how much this issue, and perhaps what to do about it, clearly matters to our audience here.

So what's the answer, Zoe Williams?

So there is no too late.