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Sep 14, 2026

speaker_0HOST
2:38
Yeah.
speaker_0HOST
2:38
Let's look at the WorldCom scandal from the early 2000s.
speaker_0HOST
2:41
I mean, they were a massive telecom company, right? Handling like half of all global Internet traffic at one point.
speaker_0HOST
2:47
But they were secretly hemorrhaging cash.
speaker_1HOST
3:32
Right.
speaker_1HOST
3:32
The tax code allows you to spread that cost out over a long period.
speaker_1HOST
3:36
So what WorldCom as CFO Scott Sullivan did was take ordinary operating costs specifically, the routine leasing fees they paid to other telecom networks, which they just called blind costs.
speaker_1HOST
3:47
And he simply reclassified them on the books as capital expenditures.
Pat McClainHOST
7:56
Yes.
Pat McClainHOST
7:56
Look at Sears, Enron, WorldCom.
Pat McClainHOST
7:59
Those were all considered great companies.
Pat McClainHOST
8:00
Enron was the one that was in the front of business magazines and that was held up as the great example.
Dave CollumGUEST
21:30
You just put your money away to the extent you could.
Dave CollumGUEST
21:33
And then it became, oh, I bought Qualcomm, oh, I bought WorldCom, oh, I bought, right? So it became, and I realized that if you have the gambling gene in you, you will find it.
Dave CollumGUEST
21:46
And so an acquaintance of mine at Harvard was a day trader, right? Day trading is for fools and experts, and they're one and the same often.
Dave CollumGUEST
22:00
And he was day trading and then clearing really very little money at the end of the year.
Symon Drake-BrockmanGUEST
7:52
So we've gone through telco crises in Europe.
Symon Drake-BrockmanGUEST
7:56
We've gone through WorldCom and companies like that in the United States when transition And those had a big effect in the market.
Symon Drake-BrockmanGUEST
8:04
We've had shale.
Symon Drake-BrockmanGUEST
8:06
We now have a lot of debate around software as a service, etc.
Daniel GamboaHOST
1:19
Ben Thompson of Stratechery was on Invest Like the Best a few days ago with Patrick O'Shaughnessy, and I loved how he closed.
Daniel GamboaHOST
1:25
He said something like, Google built its business by buying up a lot of the dark fiber lines that were sold for scraps after WorldCom failed.
Daniel GamboaHOST
1:33
And he talked about Google deploying massive amounts of capital into the AI build out, some of which is capital from Berkshire Hathaway, who owns the BNSF Railroad, which of course, owns the Northern Pacific Railway that we're going to talk about today.
Daniel GamboaHOST
1:46
It's all market history.
Jonathan MarksGUEST
15:33
I mean, that can go on and on and on.
Jonathan MarksGUEST
15:35
You look at what's going on today and you look at the frauds that have happened, Madoff, Milken, Kozlowski, Enron, WorldCom, Adelphia, keep going on and on.
Jonathan MarksGUEST
15:43
Some of the things that we talked about today.
Jonathan MarksGUEST
15:45
If you look at the Fraud Risk Management Guide, we kind of bring in that human element to a lot of this.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:42
It's way overblown.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:44
I want to, you know, who's doing your books here? Is it the people that did Enron and WorldCom? Like, this is way too over bloated here.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:50
And they'll say, no, that's accurate.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:53
That's accurate.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:42
It's way overblown.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:44
I want to, you know, who's doing your books here? Is it the people that did Enron and WorldCom? Like, this is way too over bloated here.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:50
And they'll say, no, that's accurate.
Dan KullmanPANELIST
51:53
That's accurate.
Jack ForehandHOST
25:31
So I can't remember if you get Enron in there.
Jack ForehandHOST
25:34
I feel like you get like WorldCom and some of that type of stuff.
Jack ForehandHOST
25:37
Or maybe there was a later edition that plugged this stuff in.
Jack ForehandHOST
25:39
I didn't read this book until probably 15 or so years ago when I thought I might have a gift for some of this financial engineering stuff.
Dave MinSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
44:56
Now, I began my career as a lawyer many years ago at the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Dave MinSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
45:00
This was right after the Enron and WorldCom accounting scandals.
Dave MinSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
45:03
I turned down lucrative Wall Street jobs because I believe it's really important that we uphold the integrity of capitalism.
Dave MinSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
45:11
And the people that make the rules have to be above reproach.

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