Woody Holton

So Jane Kamensky's blurb on the back of Kingdom of Devils says, this book is part true crime, part Western, part ghost story.

And Woody Holton said this is that what...

Kate Grandjean is doing is pioneering a new genre of historical true crime.

And I agree with those because I think I had a hard time thinking about a sort of a, what is a comparable book? So I want to kind of ask you what other books were on your desk while you were writing this book? Like what else did you read in that helped you? Because I do think this is bordering on true crime, bordering on things that are not exactly historical.

but also tells a very dark tale about murder at the heart of the World's Fair.

So, you know, I would say, or Patrick Radden Keefe, you know, people who kind of blend history and true crime and really know that their readers want to be immersed in a very full way in the period that they're writing about, but sort of privilege, page-turning...

And I think Woody Holton, I don't think I'm pioneering, you know, I'm not the first person to do this kind of thing, but I think he sensed that there aren't a lot of people who do what we do.

who write the way this book is written.

Their letters are fascinating.

And Woody Holton is the historian who wrote the biography of Abigail Adams.

And it is

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