Wolfgang Feist

Yeah.

Cause we interviewed Katrin and it was interesting to like learn about her history and that she had actually worked with, Wolfgang Feist on these early paths like oh yeah I was like oh you actually worked with them I thought you just like you know

oh no in fact when I did my training they were still like together and collaborating together I was part of that evolution the way they separated but yeah New York City went up for four days and um with my with my friend laura blau in philadelphia and um and then i i just my and and so in between like before that my brother johnny came into the fold the onion flats fold and then my my friend from like seventh grade howard seinberg uh who i'd stayed in contact with who is an architect he came into the fold so the four of us were onion flats at that time and I don't know why they believed me or decided to move forward, but I said, let's do nothing but Passive House when it was going forward.

And they trusted me, I guess.

So everybody's interested in what's going on.

I suppose the biggest coup for us, present company accepted, Mike, no offense, was getting Dr. Feist, Wolfgang Feist.

It was great having Dr. Weiss there.

And also, I got to talk to him when he wasn't speaking.

I mean, that's a confidence level.

Like I have to tell you, like I was blown away by the quality level the whole way through.

But how do they have that level of confidence? I have contractors who don't want to have like five people walk through and they've got Wolfgang Feist walking through.

I know.

Wir haben auch, äh, vor fünfundzwanzig Jahren, äh, die IG Passivhaus mitgegründet, wo es rein um Energieeffizienz, aber wenig noch nachhaltige Materialien.

Der Wolfgang Feist hat ja als Professor in Darmstadt das Passivhaus begründet eigentlich.

Mhm.

Ähm, und wo wir dann schon geschaut haben, dass wir eben die ganzen Holzmaterialien oder Zellulose reinkriegen.