AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE.

LOOK, SO HE'S DONE THIS MORALLY BINDING A.I. CONSTITUTION WITH A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE AT NO POINT SHOWN ANY MORALS.

AND ALSO IT'S ALL COMPLETELY MISNAMED.

SO CLAUDE, ANTHROPICS A.I., I ASKED IT EARLIER TODAY, CAN A WOMAN HAVE A PENIS? I'm not taking sides in this one.

Claude should be called flawed.

Anthropic should be called misanthropic.

They've been burning books willy-nilly.

books or they steal from them, right? They

Oh, yeah.

Artists raising money for Minnesota bail funds or whatever it was.

And it wasn't just actors.

Kamala Harris.

Kamala Harris.

Yeah, exactly.

So there was a completely different take.

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Well, what's your view?

Free Palestine is the new Black Lives Matters.

The new silence is violence.

It's this new sort of rhetorical trick used to f- sort of morally bully people into taking a side.

And unfortunately for Ed Sheeran, he's ended up in the middle of that sort of on the, uh, in the middle of the picket line and been forced to, to choose which way to go.

I, I think there's a few things that can be true at the same time, which I think you've pointed out.

Firstly, it was absolutely wrong for Robert Kraft, the owner of the New England Patriots and the stadium that they were playing, to cancel him, uh, Macklemore.

Mm.

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[laughs] Uh, I'm pro-free speech, but, uh, even Novara Media test my, uh, patience a little bit there.

Um, but, uh, uh, i- i- it, it's put himself in a situation, I'm not sure how he can get out of it professionally.

Uh, you know, at, at what point can he and can't he report on things? He's kind of created a trap for himself.

I, I, I, it's gonna be very curious to see how that plays out.

And a- as for, um, the apology, now I, I, I did issue a, a, an apology, and I...

This is five years ago now.

Mm

Well, the big thing is,

of course, that we have a new prime minister.

Well, technically Sir Keir Starmer is still our prime minister, but he's resigned and Andy Burnham is set to replace him.

Without even having to get into the weeds of what Andy Burnham-ism is, the key thing for me is that he is committed to proportional representation.

And he said he won't bring that in, well, as his prime minister right now, but he would put that in on a general election.

If he does that.

That is actually the end of the political project because Britain will never be able to vote out of its problems again.

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... and I do think Kanye should be there, I think that actually the thing that's most offensive about this incident to me is our Prime Minister Keir Starmer saying the reason why Kanye cannot come to this country is because he, uh, Starmer wants to do everything he can to confront antisemitism, the poison of antisemitism.

Well, I'm, I'm afraid Jews are being killed in this country, and they're not being killed by rappers.

Jews are absolutely under threat.

Only this month or last month we had in London Jewish ambulances being firebombed, not by rappers.

We have a community in Britain, the majority of whom think Jews have too much power in this country.

We have a community in Britain, about half of whom think Hamas are good and support Hamas.

Mm

Yes.

I need to explain to you who Peter Mandelson is.

Peter Mandelson is a Labour Party grandee.

His grandfather was part of setting up the Labour Party at the beginning of the last century.

His grandfather, Herbert Morrison, was also in Churchill's war cabinet, and famously was- had many clashes with Churchill.

They were sort of ideologically opposed from each other.

But not only that, Mandelson is regarded, was regarded at the time, as the Dark Prince behind Tony Blair and Gordon Brown and the new Labour movement from '97 to 2010.

It has now fallen in many polls below the Conservative Party, which was basically dead as a doornail just a couple of years ago, and some of this has to be due not just to Keir Starmer's poor governance, but also to the Epstein scandal.

Yeah.

This is a term we have heard not just by Democrats and the Democrat establishment, but by progressives, by the progressive media, again and again, relentlessly now for two years, in relation to Gaza.

A famous ex- famous example of that would be earlier this year when a former Green Beret went on not just the Tucker Carlson show, but also on the BBC and other mainstream media and left-wing media across the world, claiming he had joined the GHF in Gaza and had spoken to a young Gazan called Amir.

And on the Tucker Carlson show, they put up an asset showing a photograph of Amir, and this Green Beret, called Tony Aguirre, says that he spoke to this child, the child thanked him in English, and he s- almost cries, uh, when he's interviewed by Carlson.

And then as the child is walking away, he witnesses the child being killed by the IDF.

Now, this story went the wor- round the world three or four times, war crime, war crime, war crime, obviously leveled at the I- uh, Israel in- in this case.

And, uh, when the news came out two months later that not just the GHF, but Fox News, had found that child, interviewed that child, the child had been saved from Gaza, it was smiling and happy with the child's mother.

Mm-hmm.

My only concern with that is that doesn't that then create a sort of level, and I know that's not the intention, of protection for those who are in contact with members of the media so then they'll be protected because they'll just get a private message whereas people who don't have those contacts will just get slaughtered in the press.

Yeah, but although I'm not the press, so I think it's just, that's possible consequence, but I think as out of etiquette, I think that if I've got someone's number- Will they backstab you? I also say I won't, I do as much as I can to resist ad hominem, whoever it is.

I make some exceptions, like for Sadiq Khan, who I just, he's run my city into the ground, but that's another conversation.

But apart from that, I try my best to avoid ad hominem where I can.

But yeah, I think having seen a lot of these people pile on when they could have contacted me personally, I was quite shocked by that.

So I wouldn't want to do that to someone else, even when I see often people I know making or doing things I disagree with, let's say.

So yes, the Parliament was political because I, by extension, was critical of BLM and Antifa.

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You're good.

So, I actually saw the, uh, Bat Yam missile, uh, because, um, we wanted to see this.

Now, we're advised to go down to the shelters when there's a siren.

There's sirens regularly, three or four a night.

But, uh, we stood up to watch the, uh, ballistic missiles as they, as they come in.

And they start as these tiny orange traces.

And, uh, th-, and actually not really coming from the east, more coming from above.

Yeah.

Rosie Duffield, I spoke to Rosie earlier this, uh, week, and told her that conference was a safe place for her to come, um, and it is a safe place for her.

There's something particularly perverse about that, I think, Winston, because he said, "It's something that shouldn't be said." He didn't say, "Women..." He didn't say, "Men don't have cervixes." He said, "It's something that shouldn't be said." Like, that is as dystopian as it gets.

I agree, and he's not the only one in the Labor Party to express such opinions.

More, others have been more explicit to say women can have penises, including our Foreign M- uh, Minister, uh, David Lammy.

Uh, I would say with- with Sir Keir Starmer, our prime minister, in that- in that video, and there's been other ones similar like this, I think he's actually said worse things than that.

And I would also note that since then, he's come back and- and ve- towards the rational.

But in that moment, one of two things.

It's not present in Podcastistan, um, and as Konstantin kind of has poked that bear and revealed, they don't like having that mirror held up to their face, but that's because they're postmodern and don't have anything else but outrage.

Right

... up to 1.2 million in our small country.

That's a lot, uh, some years.

Um, uh, this happened under the conservative government, I might add.

Um, uh, but really it start, it started after the war, and it was turbocharged from 1997 after, um, Tony Blair.

And just went into, went crazy after the Tories', um, uh, their, their last tenure.

Um, and the problem we've got now, we have terrible, um, uh, problems of social cohesion and w- w- this riots all through last year.

... 20 years, right?

Mm-hmm.

And, um, I, I think this ties in with, with the populist thing, which I was keen to talk to you about.

And a lot of populists will, will think, uh...

Or, or, or a lot of people who frame the populist age, it's, it's sort of over the last 30 years, you look at failed Iraq wars, trillion dollars spent there, the Wall Street bailout, 2008, uh, you, uh, turbocharged by COVID and, and, and the failure of elites there.

But I think you can actually go back to the post, all the way to the end of the war, and this attack on the culture, which has inspired what I think is the worldwide populist movement, is been deliberately because we learnt the wrong lessons at the end of the Second World War.

So, uh, this is, this is what, uh, writer NS Lyons has called the, "The Long 20th Century," which we're now coming out of.

And so at the end of the Second World War, you have writers like Karl Popper writing about the open society, and they create this dichotomy between the open society and the closed society.

Mm-hmm.

The director says it's not that, but people make their...

So the, the, the thing that's curious to, to me about that, and, and this is part of the, the British liberal narrative at the moment, is that the young boys, uh, and men are getting radicalized online by Andrew Tate types and, you know, the conservative incel.

But if you look at the data, it seems to me that it, the online, I'm not saying that the online social media isn't affecting boys, but it seems it is affecting girls a lot worse.

And, uh, an, uh, examples of this would be the increase in suicide a- a- around young girls.

For, the JD Vance will, has been talking a lot about censorship and worried about how Amer- British companies are gonna be censoring Americans.

And that goes back to this online safety bill which, which was inspired by the suicide of a young girl called Molly, uh, I think Molly Bra- Brand.

Um, and she, she committed suicide and it led to it, but, uh, so the suicide rates among young girls, and not only that, politically women are becoming far more progressive and they're going more extreme.

No.

... supporting directly Hamas and so on to justify what many think has been an attack on his First Amendment rights?

Let me give you some more meat for the bone. As well as the statement he, uh, you've read out, he, uh, he has, uh... Sorry, that group, the CUAD, have put out various statements including calling Operation Al-Aqsa Flood, i.e. October 7th, a, quote, "moral, military, and political victory." There are various statements across their Instagram, across their social media, uh, media, across their Substack, making equivalent such statements. Now, the reason... I actually thought that they had gone too far in arresting him initially because all of the evidence I found to show that he might support a terrorist organization, i.e. Hamas, was consequential. Sorry, circumstantial, I should say. Now, why I've changed my mind is because he is the, not only been a spokesperson for the CUA-

... James, so two things for Winston. One, the general point about free speech, you know, the Republicans have been extremely hot on free speech, people's right, especially Elon Musk, right? He's returned X, as he put it, to a platform that allows all opinion to be had. Here you have somebody who's expressing opinions that he may not like, but, and Donald Trump may not like and the government may not like, but their first reaction, it seems to many people, is to then chop them out of the country and suppress their right to free speech in America. That's an arguable point. But on the second point, which is an interesting one about the IRA, there's no doubt. You know, I'm an Irish Catholic. I can remember people on the streets of New York on St. Patrick's Day and other days, right? I can remember people openly supporting the IRA during those, uh, troubles, and they were a prescribed terror group. What's the difference?

Well, the difference is that, uh, this is not, uh, a free speech issue necessarily. So for example, as I've already quoted, what it is that is, uh, uh, Mahmoud Khalil is being deported on is that he broke the rules that he agreed to when he came to America. He can continue saying what he wants. In fact, he could have said all that he said, or rather, no, he can't. He can't have expressed support for Hamas. He could have expressed support for Palestine. He could even have been anti-Semitic, and it wouldn't have broken the rules. But specifically, he supported terrorist activity-