William Vanderbloemen

It started out really as a church planting mission and community, but it's really looked at issues around church health and growth and leadership, and then in many ways, we're just trying to, uh, keep our finger on the pulse of what God wants to be saying to the now and future church.

And I, I really can't think of anybody who's gonna, uh, be able to help us better than that with my friend William Vanderbloemen.

We first met, uh, many years ago, I think it was at a conference, uh, in Atlanta that I went to, um, which Andy Stanley was putting together.

At that time, I used to go out every year to Atlanta and, uh, and go to the...