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William Schultz

OCD psychotherapist in St. Paul, Minnesota, president of OCD Twin Cities, and researcher whose work informed international OCD treatment competency standards.

Jun 11, 2026

7:41
Let's just talk about that, what you went through and what it felt like.
7:45
Yeah.
7:46
Yeah.
7:46
So I'll, I'll paint a very brief context because I think it helps illuminate my story.
7:53
Um, When I was in high school, I ended up getting into policy debate.
8:03
I was on the debate team and had some success and excelled.
8:10
And one of the things that that facilitated was an emphasis on that area of strength for me, abstract thinking.

40 MINS LATER

47:54
Can you tell us, you know, what this actually means for, you know, those who are, you know, seeking out modern mental health treatment?
Gillian Jacobs
Gillian JacobsCORRESPONDENT
18:36
Within just a couple of years of establishing her ministry, the Four Square Gospel Association already had 32 church branches in southern California with dozens of other churches applying to become affiliates of the Angelus Temple.
18:50
She also feels the need to just constantly keep the church growing.
18:55
This is one of the defining features of the megachurch movement, the idea that growth itself is a positive good.
19:03
If your church is growing, you're spreading God's kingdom, and you need to grow in order to continue growing because people want to be part of something that seems to be booming.

11 MINS LATER

30:14
As for Sister Aimee and America's first megachurch, oddly enough, even with her name being dragged through the mud in every headline, the whole debacle ended up being great for the church.
30:26
Angelus Temple actually grew during the scandal.
30:30
Put that in the there's no such thing as bad publicity files.
30:36
But-In terms of her fame, I mean, this was an era where you start to have the emergence of these figures who come to embody, like, a single type.
Gillian Jacobs
Gillian JacobsCORRESPONDENT
19:38
Within just a couple of years of establishing her ministry, the Four Square Gospel Association already had 32 church branches in southern California, with dozens of other churches applying to become affiliates of the Angelus Temple.
19:51
She also feels the need to just constantly keep the church growing.
19:57
This is one of the defining features of the megachurch movement, the idea that growth itself is a positive good.
20:05
If your church is growing, you're spreading God's kingdom and you need to grow in order to continue growing because people want to be part of something that seems to be booming.

15 MINS LATER

35:33
As for Sister Aimee and America's first megachurch, oddly enough, even with her name being dragged through the mud in every headline, the whole debacle ended up being great for the church.
35:45
Angelus Temple actually grew during the scandal.
35:50
Put that in the there's no such thing as bad publicity files.
35:55
But in terms of her fame, I mean, this was an era where you start to have the emergence of these figures who come to embody like a single type.

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