William Bentvena

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... putting, putting Billy Batts in the back of a car?

What, I never dug a hole before? [laughs]

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What's your favorite scene? We're doing it

I mean, you, I mean, I mean, the obvious answer is it's the Billy Batts sequence

... confession.

I'm sorry.

Yeah, you had to

...

I mean, clearly it looks like Billy Batts.

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When Spider finally told him off, Tommy put three bullets in his chest, and Hill later said that was the moment he became convinced Tommy was a psychopath.

Then there was Billy Batts, or William Bentvana as the government knew him.

Billy was a made man in the Gambino family with ties to Gotti, and in 1970, he'd just come home from prison.

Spotting Tommy, whom he'd known as a kid, Batts teased him about whether he still shined shoes.

Informants were reporting that none of it didn't happen, that he was killed more or less at the request of John Dottie and the Gambino family.

Because the reason for Tommy being killed was because he killed Billy Batts, who was a main member of the Gambino family.

And I guess what was sort of motivating this was that he had also killed, in the early 70s, a man by the name of Foxy Jirogi, who was a close friend of Gotti's.

So Gotti did not want Tommy DeSimone, who was about to be made by the Bucchesi family, to pass.

He got into jail shortly before the Lufthansa robbery.

So most of the 70s...

He killed this guy Giraudi, and he killed Billy Batts.

It was probably in the late 60s or the first part of the 1970s.

Yeah.

Uh, Billy Batts.

Billy Batts.

So, so in Casino, that actor plays a character that's supposed to be Frank Cullotta.

Oh, okay.

And at that point, you're familiar.

We hate to reference De Niro movies again, but you remember the scene where Billy Batts comes back from prison and Joe Pesci comes in.

Then George really opens up on Clarence the Clown.

Right.

I was working at this management company, Bohemia.

Is there the risk that they'll just take you out like Pesci? Like you're going to walk in to get your button, but it's actually because you killed Billy Batts over the shine

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joke? They just take you out? And they'd be