They had a wonderful

production crew, Sigmata.

Kyle Nicolette and Donnie Vincent run that organization, and they just did a fantastic job telling the story.

They do a lot of outdoor space productions.

Anyway, so, you know, I think one of the things that really helped make Primos was the timing.

So in 1983, what was available to us, to the general public, was audio cassettes.

That's right.

When you got into this and you were actually working the restaurants and you were trying to do this, did you think about product development? in general, or was it just specifically about game calls? And did you get into other versions besides, you know, turkey and duck and everything else? I mean, how did you mold into changing? I mean, you got into the video side of it, but what about the product?

Yeah.

I got a place in Bozeman, come here a lot, and I'm going to be there.

And they said, oh, my gosh.

So they reshuffled everything, came, and they interviewed me, and that was it.

I called in my friends, the old employees, my assistant Lorena and other people.

They came in that they interviewed to tell the story of And I answered their questions and did what they asked me, but I was no part of it.

So I had no clue.

YouTube and all that.

Mm-hmm.

... and the, cock them when you o- when the gun opened, cock them, the hammers were on the outside.

And so you'd cock the hammers, then you had a safety.

And just like a, any normal gun.

So you...

The hammers are cocked.

And it was just so much fun shooting it.

Okay.