Will Herberg

And then it really, as I say, like we say with cancer, metastasizes into kind of a warped version of what it was originally supposed to be as God intended to be applied, which actually ends up doing the exact opposite of what we wanted it to do originally.

And the person who really spotted this early on, like 70 years ago, was an American Jewish social thinker named Will Herberg.

who wrote this book called Judaism and Modern Man.

And he called it the cut flower ethics.

I think it's simply because of the historical tradition.

And I just think that Will Herberg's book in the 1950s, Protestant Catholic Jew, there is a tradition of which these are three representations.

And among conservative evangelicals, some of the last people on planet Earth who really care about the Old Testament other than the Jewish people.

So it's a very different America, very different world.