Wild cabbage

[laughs]

Because guess what? We've been cultivating that original Brassica oleracea for thousands of years.

That Mediterranean plant, that original plant created all of those.

So you know, it's funny because, all right, you know, I have a friend, uh, my, my near and dear friend, uh, Meg Grows Plants.

Mm-hmm.

We worked together on Epic Garden.

And I was watching her podcast, which it's a great podcast too, uh, and she was talking about that original Brassica oleracea plant, and she gave one of the best, best descriptions, best analogies I've ever heard.

She said, when you're thinking about all of these different Brassicas that exist...