Wilda C. Gafney

And if we don't think God has gender, then either we find non-gendered ways to talk about God, or we have to have a balance of pronouns and words that we use to speak about God so as to not end up in a place where we start to presume masculinity is divine.

And so for the kind of scholarship for this, the, the person who has been really helpful for me is Wilda Gafney, who is a Hebrew scholar, an Old Testament scholar who translates Hebrew in her readings of the Hebrew Bible, the Old Testament, in order to kind of unearth the way that gender, particularly sexist accounts of the Bible, have undermined and kind of hidden away these kind of feminine, the feminine potential of the, of Hebrew as a language.

And so her, her argument really, going back to the Hebrew, is that you find feminine pronouns used of the Spirit all throughout the Old Testament.

Mm-hmm.