White oak

Kind of like a bur oak, I think, is what I imagine.

A bur oak mixed with an eastern white oak, Quercus alba.

Well, I don't know what you mean by that, really.

But I will say, I think it just looks like a nice gray, shaggy bark.

There really is.

Honestly, when it's a hybrid, that's what you get, right?

This has the stature of a northern white oak with the scent of a southern live oak with the...

The umami.

favorite oak tree to plant?

Where I'm at, White Oak, I don't have very many swamp chestnuts.

If I had swamp chestnuts, that's what I would be over.

Swamp

both around here.

Yeah.

And the white oaks usually start, I don't know, a week and a half earlier.

Mm-hmm.

A really archetypal in terms of our North American Materia Medica herb.

oak bark, Quercus, lots of oaks, but Quercus alba is kind of the official, but there's lots of oaks.

They're all astringent, very good, strong astringent.

I consider oak like the king of the astringents.

Yes.

That when you toast it, or char it for them, sorry, it releases these vanillins from Quercus alba.

But

because bourbon is all