White Horse Dialogue

Um, okay.

So last but not least, I just wanna touch on, on the-- your album that just came out, A White Horse is Not a Horse, uh, that you did with drummer Patrick Golden, um, which is also released on ESP Disk.

As a double LP.

Okay.

Uh, it, i-it's a-all the artists make the decisions.

Uh, so, um, and, uh, it's, it's a labor of love.

Uh, I, I named-- He actually, he named it A White Horse is Not a Horse.

And when we were chatting during the recording, I, I told him about this ancient Chinese philosophy.