Westron

I will sing you a song of the maiden Nimrodel, who bore the same name as the stream beside which she lived long ago.

It is a fair song in our woodland tongue, but this is how it runs in the Westron speech, as some in Rivendell now sing it.

In a soft voice, hardly to be heard amid the rustle of the leaves above them, he began.

Okay.

think

do we have any reason to believe he's ever been to Rivendell before this trip I mean I don't know of any reason to believe that so yeah he's got the Nimrodale poem in his head now because he just learned this As Summon Rivendell now sing it.

Ms. Rey, wouldn't it be awesome if that was actually Bilbo? If Bilbo translated it into Westron? And so Legolas is like...

Legolas is going to sing for them a song that Bilbo translated from the Elvish into Westron? And which Legolas heard while he was there? Exactly.

If I were to meet one still walking in this world, then indeed I should feel young again.

But Treebeard! That is only a rendering of Fangorn into the Common Speech.

Yet you seem to speak of a person.

Who is this Treebeard?" "Ah! Now you are asking much," said Gandalf.

In the Unfinished Tales, we read this.

The name Incanus is apparently alien, that is, neither Westron nor Elvish, Sindarin or Quenya, nor explicable by the surviving tongues of northern men.

A note in the Thane's book says that it is a form adapted to Quenya of a word in the tongue of the Haradrim, meaning simply North Spy.

But then there's a note by Christopher about a different version of that name.

For those curious as to why Faramir would use the name Mithrandir and not Gandalf, this is because Faramir would speak Númenórean Sindarin, a dialect of Sindarin spoken by the Dúnedain in Middle-earth.

By the time of the Lord of the Rings, Westeron, the common speech of Middle-earth, was mainly used in Gondor, with Sindarin being a polite language used by those of a more pure Númenórean descent, like Faramir.

Tharkun is said to be used by the dwarves, though as is common with dwarves and their language Khuzdul, who exactly used this name for Gandalf is a bit of a mystery, as dwarves seemingly used the name Gandalf instead.

This could, of course, be due to the name being created by Tolkien following the Hobbit, or Tharkun just being translated for us in the Red Book of Westmarch.

Finally, the king of Rohan calls Gandalf Graham, a name in the tongue of Rohan called Rohanese.

It is a modernised version of their word for grey coat or grey mantle.

Rohanese as to Westeron as Old English as to our Modern English.

And this is a reference to Gandalf's appearance.