How do they qualify for physical therapy, and, like, what are common diagnoses you see? Like, what is the process to get into PT?

It's very similar to, I wanna say, the regular world, but [laughs] I don't know if that's the right term.

The primary care is there.

Primary care gives the referrals, so any time that somebody is having an issue or whatever, um, they, they make an appointment with their primary care, and then they get the referral to PT.

I see just about everything, just like, just like a regular setting.

I see post-surgical, uh-

Mm.

But for the ones that got in trouble, I give it to them.

[laughs]

... is regenerative funding and capital.

In general, I've had to be very creative.

Creative because traditional banks are not supportive of, and rightly so, you know, they're a business too.

But they haven't been supportive only because maybe they don't have the knowledge around agriculture that thinks more perennially or long-term.

Banking, traditional banks think on short-term, year after, you know, one-year cycles, and that's paired very well with the commodity system of annual crops and annual cropping systems.

In addition, it has the Farm Bill and ag policy support that supports that financially, gives it that insurance that a farmer is going to get some sort of income Even if at a loss, if they have a loss that year, they're going to get some income.

I have no idea [chuckles] what, what I would do in your shoes.

For me,

from a leadership perspective, I think code switching.

I've always tried to make a concerted effort to dispel a lot of the social media advertising kind of stereotypes, if you will.

Is the time is exactly what it is.

Is this the advertising stereotypes that exist because, you know, it's.

Clarence mentioned it, you know, when you're code switching, a lot of times, you know, you're you're in your head.

And this is where this is for me, where I was at.

What does courage mean? What does it look like? Or how does somebody start with courage?

Sympoiesis.

Sympoiesis.

Don't be light about it.

Don't banter it around.

At the same time, don't be grim about it.

[laughs] It's a huge cyclical pattern.

Systems inherently messy, non-linear, traditional ecological knowledge.

[laughs]

That's right.

You know, native people have access to a special branch of Native Seed Search, which is founded in, uh, Tucson, Arizona, by Gary Paul Nabhan, a wonderful writer.

One of the most beautiful books, uh, you can read is his book, Enduring Seeds.

Uh, I recommend it with all my heart.

It's one of my favorite books.

It's the story of, of, uh, of, uh, the plants of the Southwest, and he's a, a, a accomplished writer.

Anyway, native people, when they ...

[laughs]

[clears throat]

... with a root system that can thrive in the dark, and a plant that reaches for the stars in the moonlight.

What an incredible weekend to be together.

A blue moon rising over blue mountains, drinking in the sky, praying for us, giving us double moonlight this month, and on Memorial Day.

On the day, in the days that we remember the ancestors and the blessed dead.

Always with us.

You know, the first gardens really did evolve out of burial grounds.

[laughs]

[bell rings]

This is Dharma Podcast at dharmapodcast.org.

This is episode number twenty-six sixteen.

It was recorded on May twenty-seventh, two thousand twenty-six, and it is titled Planting Life: Honoring Traditional Ecological Knowledge.

The speaker for this episode is Wendy Johnson.

[bell rings] Good evening.

Uh, the joy I feel to be here is, um, vast and subtle and, uh, a gift.

[laughs]

Here's Wendy to share some of her big ideas.

Hi, I'm Dr. Wendy Johnson.

I'm a family and addiction medicine doc who has practiced for over 30 years in the United States and around the globe in clinical medicine and public health, and here are a few insights I've gleaned that led me to write Kinship Medicine.

The 80/20 secret of health and wellness: Early in my career, I learned that the medical system deals with just a small fraction of what determines our health.

We doctors focus almost entirely on individual biological and genetic factors, but good evidence shows that's only about 20% of what contributes to our wellbeing.

The other 80% is determined by social conditions and environmental context, things like education, economic status, upbringing, your exposure to pollutants in the air or water, the kind of community or country you might be lucky or unlucky enough to live in, and a million other things we now call the social determinants of health, all largely ignored by modern medicine.

So calling this a healthcare system when it only concerns itself with that last 20%, that tip of the iceberg, well, it's like calling yourself a soccer team when you've only got a goalie.