Web Summit

That was really fun.

Doing Web Summit.

Yeah.

That was incredible.

Um, I've done the math on this.

I actually had a talk at Web Summit in Vancouver earlier this year, where I just talked about the number of, uh, change log posts that companies are putting out is actually accelerated quite a lot.

Customers and prospects are, are being inundated with messaging.

And most companies, when they, you know, they get feedback from a customer, they're like, "Got it." They go and they eventually they work on it, and then it gets distributed to them in like a...

And so I think that that's been It's just an amazing transformation.

Last November, I was at the Web Summit in Lisbon, and someone asked me, when do you think that automated traffic, that agents and the various things that run around on the internet.

When do you think that that will pass human traffic? And so I went back to my team and we pulled all the data and we looked at it.

And based on everything that we saw, we thought it was going to be the second half of 2027.

So LEAP started out in Saudi Arabia and now you're taking it international.

I think your first ever next LEAP is in Hong Kong, right? What's the thinking behind that? Why are you taking it international? Is this like you're creating a brand similar to some of the biggest brands that are, I don't know if it's okay to mention, you know, the Web Summit

or other big events? So Leap is a genuine homegrown Saudi IP and it was created here with MCIT and SAF CSP under His Excellency Abdullah al-Swaha.

and it grew to the most attended technology event in the world.

At first, I didn't want to come.

I thought that Saudi was not a good place for women and all the kind of misconceptions.

And then I met the team at MCIT in Silicon Valley, and also I met a few other Saudis from STC and ELM in Portugal Web Summit.

And they showed me what Saudi was about.

I have.

I had the privilege of covering Web Summit actually there, which is where it's based.

And it was run by an Irish entrepreneur for a while.

And while I was there, I ate my weight in Pastel Donatas.

She said, Corrine, you made me a woman in tech in 2018.

And she said, now I go to Web Summit every year and I tell my story.

And she's been to China already.

She's been to Japan.

And he frames technology as the glory of human ambition, with deceleration and AI regulation framed as almost a moral crime against humanity, right? And this is the constituency that Henry Farrell is casting as the other side of a war.

So it's a loose alliance of founders, VCs, people who go to Web Summit, economic bloggers, commentators, all of whom see steering AI as itself.

a danger,

right? Right.

And

you're here for Web Summit in Vancouver.

Here for Web Summit in Vancouver.

And you're the CEO, co-founder of Certain.

That's correct.

And it doesn't matter what stage really, like you got product market fit and you're growing, you're you're going through the same challenges and i find that that to me you know those can include investors but like those groups to me when you get a group of founders together in one room with no set agenda those are the most valuable things that's where problems get solved that's where like the world your world changes

yeah do you uh You meet obviously a lot of founders.

You're out your how many how many speeches at Web Summit? Six.