Watford Palace Theatre

And this is going to be a feature of my career, but it was in between jobs.

and I taught technical theatre arts and GCC drama, believe it or not, for a couple of years, but then went to work at Watford Palace Theatre in 2004, which was literally the moment it opened after a relatively extensive refurb, and started their stage manager and stayed there for long enough to become their company stage manager.

So stage management's kind of my initial segue into live professional theatre.

And so what led you from Watford to...